Montana Secession based on 2nd Amendment Ruling?

Only if you show me a model where our current nation can continue to live off massive debt, some of the world's highest corporate taxes, a subsidized stock market that only survives from government intervention, etc..etc..

 

Hmmmmm, still looks like it's ticking to me. It's ok, you can dodge the question, just don't drop your suggestion without atleast a pausible theory behind it. Guerrila will atleast provide some base to anything he claims or mentions, which is why respect to him is due.

 

I support the concept of peaceful secession. In everything. It's a fundamental right, to be able to choose to opt out of something.

I recall reading somewhere that California would have the world's 5th largest economy if it seceded. As far as surviving, it probably wouldn't be easy. But then, good things rarely come easy. That's why rugged, individualist states like Montana would even entertain the notion.

Have you ever thought about where "Federal Money" comes from?

They could use any currency they want. The world runs on paper money, no reason they could not print their own.

Sure, which is why these decisions are not to be taken lightly.

State taxes are fine if the people agree to it. The nice thing about state government, is that you are not susceptible to the wishes of the executive and 49 other states when you want to get something done. You don't have to travel to DC, you can travel to your state capitol.

The Tea Party is actually overblown. The Stamp Act, and the the Writs of Assistance are what pushed the colonies over the edge. The Tea Party was very dramatic though.

 

Let's try this. When America was going to separate from Britain, I'm sure people gave the same argument. After all, the sun never set on the British Empire. This was the most monolithic force in global history to that point.

If you believe in freedom, you have to be willing to believe that anything is divisible down to it's individual constituents. A city or town could secede if they wanted to.

 

I was just talking about this today strangely enough. The Feds own so much of the land out there and then when a conflict comes up they can dominate it because "it is their land."

 

Your're chances of succesion are none.

If you are serious. Find a small town somewhere that only has 20 people and buy up land and bring in 21+ voters will you. You can reduce your property taxes to zero and you can buy up all the arms you want by running the Police dept.

 

I can't print my own

 

My problem is the income tax, I'm not paying 35% to fund the UN that funds the destruction of American sovereignty and life.

 

Property taxes are worse than income taxes. With the income tax if you make less than $30,000 with a couple of kids you pay nothing. Property taxes are worse. You have to pay them every year or the government takes your property.

Just grow your own food and generate electricity from water and wind and you wouldn't have any income taxes to pay. Plow the fields with oxen and use donkeys to haul your firewood.

 

Probably find some unemployed donkeys around these parts.

 

Good point, I don't know much about property taxes probably cause I don't own a house yet. All these taxes in general piss me off. That's the reason I want to secede so bad if something doesn't happen.

But I'll stay the long course, I have some other plans I can incorporate.

 

It's worse if you own land. Imagine if you own 2000 acres of forest that is benefiting the community by purifying the water and improving the quality of life with open spaces. However you are expected to pay for services that you don't use or require. If you don't live in the community you don't even get to vote about the taxes. Worse you may not have any income from the land but people making a lot more than you and using services may be paying little or no taxes.