I laugh of some webmasters taht don't accept pr0 sites

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Jean126, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    Yes i do. I just have to laugh. pr0 sites can be pr6 or higher tomorrow. It's quality that counts not the stupid number on the toolbar.

    I know a guy that got refused by a noob webmaster, my mate wanted to ask for a link exchange for his two months old site. The guy who refused him had a pr3 site and he refused to link exchange to my mate because he was a pr0 noob. Well who was the noob do you think ? Because my mate got his site to pr4 three days later and the noob got his site down to pr2, haha.

    Next time you get someone that wants to link exchange with you check the quality for the site not the damn number on your toolbar.

    Thanks,
    Jean
     
    Jean126, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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  2. taylorwilsdon

    taylorwilsdon Peon

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    Take it elsewhere. I could barely read the post with so many numbers substituted for letters.
     
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  3. Jean126

    Jean126 Peon

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    Why take it elsewhere? This is important. People should not care as much about pageranks as they do. I would rather link to a quality pr0 website then a poorly pr2 website.

    Don't you agree ?

    edit: btw i edited the first post so it is not half as many typos anymore ;)
     
    Jean126, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    Boardwalk Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, me too. Who cares if your site is PR4 when no one visits it? :p
     
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    ameran Well-Known Member

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    It is nice to have a high PR on your website but traffic is much more important than PR. It is the best if you have high traffic and PR at the same time. Then you can be proud of.
     
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  6. Jean126

    Jean126 Peon

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    Yes but thats not what i mean. There is webmasters out there who refuse linking to pr0 websites just because of the number on the toolbar. People has been miss-guided somewhat i think. You should link to sites that benefot your visitors.

    At least I am linking to sites that can benefit my visitors and not because of a number. Thats why you are linking to other pages in the first place. To help your visitors finding what they want. Well it's good SEO to get backlinks from high PR sites, but the most important thing is to get quality backlinks from websites in your own niche.
     
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    So.... basically alexa > PR?
     
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  8. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is a sad truth of life, but that motivates those who have PR 0 to work harder to get higher PR. Hopefully when these people gets higher PRs they will not believed as those that rejected them before.

    Anyway Jean126, hope that serves as a motivation to your friend to improve on his PR rather than demotivates him, best of luck!
     
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  9. Jean126

    Jean126 Peon

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    Yea traffic is more important then PR, no traffic no sale.


    Yes he is working hard. Building quality links and making content like hell :p And getting from pr0 - pr4 in one update is a good proof that he is doing great and doing the right thing since he is getting traffic to.
     
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  10. gummybear

    gummybear Member

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    This is a dumb question but what are PR# ?? Does that mean your page is listed on a search result on Page # or is it the #th result? Like PR2 means it's the 2nd result or is it on the 2nd page?
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Page rank is a concept introduced by Google to see how valuable a site is in terms of its popularity. You can get more info

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank

    Have a nice day!

     
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  12. hmansfield

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    I refuse link exchange request everyday/ Mostly because the sites suck, or it is a general email saying, "Our sites are similar, we should exchange links", and then you look at it, and it's an insurance MFA.
    It's hard to find a quality link exchange these days. :(
     
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  13. snowbird

    snowbird Notable Member

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    @gummybear

    PR means pagerank. Read more here: http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html

    @Jean

    Reciprocal links do not carry much SEO weight, and they are better used for traffic IMO. If I was going to trade links with another site that had little traffic potential, it had better have some PR. Otherwise, there not much in it for me.
     
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  14. the9crow

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    So page rank is important!!! I agree that traffic is important and i agree that both pr and traffic is important...
    The problem with linking to pr0 sites is that you cannot guarantee that that pr0 site will be pr4 on next update... I linked pr0 sites and 3 updates later they are still pr0, my pr went from 4 to 3 what does that tell you... Some of these sites with pr0 can have great traffic buy doing surf for hits and asking for stumbles and all that jazz... So linking to pr0 sites can be more hassle than it's worth!!!!!
     
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    snowbird Notable Member

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    PR and traffic kind of go together. With a higher PR, Google says that your listings in its search engine will probably be positioned near the top of the search results. Higher rankings = more traffic. Many don't like PR because of link sellers or the fact that toolbar PR is outdated.

    I agree. I receive too many link exchange requests from people that provide no data. So it is up to me to see how many backlinks they have, what their Alexa traffic rank is, how many outbound links they have on their site, etc. It's just easier to go to their site and look at the toolbar PR. If it's a PR 0 or PR NR, I don't bother doing all the other research.

    I guess if people really want to trade links, put some supporting data in the E-mail you send to webmasters. The generic, "let's trade links" just does not cut it.
     
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  16. Jean126

    Jean126 Peon

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    Only thing you need to send someone you want to link to is the url you want to be linked from, the link of your site and why you think both of you can benefit of these agreement. First priority is to give your visitors what they want or else they wont come back, ever.

    Why the hell should i email someone with link exchange suggestion and then include how much visitors i have, how many backlinks i have and what my PR is. If i have a good site these things come auto.
     
    Jean126, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    You are right, my first priority is to give my visitors what they want on my site. When visitors leave my site, I want it to be as the result of some monetization effort.

    I get atleast 20 generic link requests E-mail'ed to me every day for a variety of domains. One in particular accounts for most of them. The first rule in marketing is to show what benefit a product or service has for the buyer, or in this case the one who received the link exchange request. Why should I consider a link exchange with someone that sends me a typical generic link exchange request?

    My point is that I did not initiate the contact to exchange links. If somone truly wants to exchange links with me, then tell me how it will benefit me. Most of what I have seen are low PR sites requesting link exchanges with mostly my PR 6 site. No details are provided in the E-mail other then "mutual benefit." I see no mutual benefit to me having to research 20 link exchange requests per day. Give me some details in the E-mail or I hit delete.

    If such links came naturally I would not receive link exchange requests. I'd rather not receive them, because most of what these people are looking for are PR juice. That's why a PR 6 site of mine gets the majority of the requests.

    If you received many of the link exchange requests below on a daily basis, you too would be frustrated. But I think if the person asking for a link exchange provided some details of the benefit to me, (traffic, pageviews, PR, outbound links, etc.), I might actually not hit the delete button so quickly and consider the request.

     
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  18. tigermedia_ca

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    A tree fell in the forest, and nobody cares.

    I would have refused the trade too, beyond it being a PR0 there were probably other issues like the design looking like it was done by a 10 year old or something...

    You coming here and saying "ha ha" to another webmaster is really childish.
     
    tigermedia_ca, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    Jean - I understand your view ... but once your friend got that PR4 now he is in the "larger PR situation", do you really expect him to now link exchange with every PR0 site that comes his way?
     
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  20. Jean126

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    If they have good, unique content that can benefit my friends visitors then yes he would.
     
    Jean126, Feb 24, 2008 IP