Links in forum sign isn't a white hat tecnique for Google?

Discussion in 'Google' started by emaz85, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    One client don't want to pay me because he think that forum are not “white hat” techniques, because the post are in completely unrelated websites that are not dedicated to his niche. He thinks that these links may be considered “Google Bombing”.

    This is UNCORRECT because:

    - Links on forum sign are white hat seo. Everyone use it...see on digitalpoint's forum...every seo or webmaster use link from sign. Unrelated links AREN'T against Google guidelines...so is white hat tecnique.

    - Links on forum aren't Google bombing. See here what is Google Bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bomb

    Any opinions?
     
    emaz85, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  2. Boardwalk

    Boardwalk Well-Known Member

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    I think your client is an idiot. :p
     
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  3. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    Is only a pretest to not pay...IMHO
     
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    shyboy Well-Known Member

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    #4
    isn’t any form of 'artificially inflating' rank whether its via self promoting forum links or other type of artificial links against the Google webmaster guidelines and therefore considered 'black hat'?

    p.s just to clarify, I am NOT the guy refusing to pay the OP
     
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  5. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    I think you're client is right.. they are white hat but they're not quality links.
     
    Nora, Feb 23, 2008 IP
  6. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    It's so difficult to read? The client don't want pay because he think that isn't a white hat tecnique! In our agreement there isn't anything about quality....onlly to put links on pages with a recent cache! for few bucks I have given various link with Pr.

    The point isn't the quality
     
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  7. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    so directory, blog posts and so on...each seo tecnique is black hat?
     
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  8. Loonm

    Loonm Peon

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    #8
    guys this is not incorrect, but lets face it, you don't benefit much out of forum(s) signature....
     
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  9. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Yeah I know that but unless they paid only a few cents I think quality is very important. I know I wouldn't be happy to see forum posts pointing to my site if I paid for link building. Anyways, aren't they supposed to pay before you start link building? If so, just find another client :)
     
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  10. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    The point ISN'T the quality...because I have given also links from

    1 pr 3 page with ONLY one outbound link
    3 pr 2 pages with only three outbound links
    some Pr 1
    and much more

    I think that $100 is the fair price for just this 4 links for one year! But I have also give other 20 links!

    I prefer delete all links...because I have wasted a lot of time...

    The agreement was 25 links on a page with recent google cache...no Pr or quality specifications...for $100
     
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  11. Vic_mackey

    Vic_mackey Banned

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    #11
    I'd feel ripped off if you done such a poor job for me for $100. Its going to have no seo effect, he'd be as well spending the $100 on something worthwhile, or someone who knew what they were doing. Just my opinion though!
     
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  12. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    #12

    in other linkbuilding service gave links from a Pr5 with 70 outgoing links...see on the section Buy/Sell

    I have gave 14 sitewide links with Pr and less than 7 outgoing links...and others link....only 4 link by sign (2 of them with Pr)
     
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  13. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    #13
    Its 100% WhiteHat..
    Just send your client a link to this thread.
     
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  14. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    I can't because too much users has write without read my first post...;)
     
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    shyboy Well-Known Member

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    Don’t get me wrong. I am not talking from a high moral ground here. It’s just that if we are honest with ourselves, then the logic goes like this:

    1. Anything that artificially promotes links is black hat according to Google: Agree?
    2. Doing blog posting services and forum posting services offered here is ' artificially inflating links': agree?

    If both 1 and 2 are true, then yes, it is black hat.

    I am not saying this from an arrogant point of view, so please don’t take it as that. Im just playing devils advocate here.

    with regards to the OP's client, how exactly did he think he was going to get his links?
     
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  16. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    I have understand...don't worry :D
     
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    #17
    even it's white hat but If i'm your customers, i would not pay as well because i would expect real backlinks not just a sig links.
     
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  18. emaz85

    emaz85 Active Member

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    #18
    THE QUALITY ISN'T THE POINT.

    but he think taht isn't a white hat tecnique
     
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  19. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    #19
    Shy boy is right ("1. Anything that artificially promotes links is black hat according to Google: Agree?")

    I'm sorry but I think the user has the right not to pay, even the 1 pr3 and 3 pr2 links, the user could have gotten without paying $100. He's really being ripped off :S
     
    Nora, Feb 23, 2008 IP
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    pipsbank Banned

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    #20
    You should educate your client as they will have to understand it perfectly only they will invest more
     
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