I dont know if many of you have read it or not! I just read it today and found it really intresting. The following incident is long to read....but really Worth it. Read it to realise.....why I say it is worth it.
thats a pretty good argument, but dont forgot Albert Einstein made many quotes arguing for athiesm such as: "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." [Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April] "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." [Albert Einstein, Religion and Science New York Times Magazine] "if this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him?" [Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years (New York: Philosophical Library, 1950), p. 27.] "Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true....Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me."
You dont want to know what I think....! Okay maybe you do... God / Jesus / The Messiah / WTF Ever is an excuse for weak people to dump their troubles on someone else so they feel better about themselves, religeon has been the cause of so much suffering through wars, neglect and beaurocracy over the years that how can anyone can think they are fighting in gods name. If god is powerfull and kind then why are people fighting for him, its because they believe they will be rewarded when they die... Like I said, my opinions not maybe yours... Discussions about religeon and beliefs should be kept in the back of your heads and not discussed openly, it cause more friction than it is worse.
There are still some arguments over his belief in god, basically with he theories of "red shift" where all galaxies are moving away from each other then there must of been a starting point. So i think einstein started to become a deist after realising there must of been a start to the universe. However i think he had issues with the idea of god due to his issues with gods morals. Therefore there is a debate whether he was agnostic rather than an athiest. Personally i am an athiest, i have no beef with people that believe in god but thats my personal opinion, mainly because of my science background. I do however dislike a lot of organised religions
I just posted this because i like the way EINSTEIN argued with that Prof. To me fighting over a religion is BS. People fighting and dying for cartoons is total BS. I believe in GOD, but my religion does not teach me to fight for anything.
aye i totally agree. i dont get upset if someone makes a joke about things i believe in, i just take it on the chin and get on with it, maybe even have a dig back. I couldnt give a toss what people believe in aslong as they get on peacefully. And yeah that was a good argument from einstein
I don't know what it is, I can't show it to you in a box, but there is something out there that moves in our lives, and beyond. I have seen it, it's real. I had to die to do it, (to see it) but that is another story. All arguments to counter this point are moot(to me). May your God go with you.
Definetely not!!! But sadly there are people who manipulate their religious beliefs to get their personal grudges out !!
Your brain is still active for a short time after you die, its like a dream, its being medically proven. Nothing to do with god or anything else....
Do you have any source that Einstein actually said that sumit? If you ask me - there is no "God" in the sense that most people believe, and maybe not one at all. I believe there are 4 reasons why people have continuously believed in "God" 1. Fear, people fear the unknown naturally, so to get over this fear it becomes very easy to just believe God will take care of everything. 2. It's very hard to believe there's nothing after our short lives, and then fear kicks in again, so it becomes even easier to believe. 3. Religion is almost always passed down from families, just like racism. If your family teaches you to be Christian, Muslim or Nazi, you most likely will because they're your family. 4. Power. Religion has always been a tool used for power. You can talk about faith all you want, but there's no reason you would believe in any God if you weren't told to do so by someone. Like the scientist said, God has supposedly created everything and is "all knowing"... therefor God knew exactly what would happen to each and every single person when God created us. If that were the case, God has created evil, murder, suffering, disease, etc. - And a God that does those things is nothing worth worshipping if you ask me. Just look around at the fear tactics Christians and Mormons use (i dont know about the others). They tell you if you believe something different than them, you don't get to go to Heaven, you don't collect $200 and you'll be punished with Hell. If I don't "accept Jesus" and whatever else, no Heaven for me. Be sure you put a dollar in the collection plate so the priest has a Mercedes and can organize events to molest more boys!
Actually, I just recieved this in mail, so i cannot confirm that this is from einstein. Thats a good and valid point. I have been following my religion cause of my family only. This is what was taught to us when we were kids (I am a Hindu BTW). But i am not a hardcore follower, i dont leave things on GOD to be done, i dont blame GOD for anything that went wrong. I just believe that something is there. There are so many things that you see around here in my country, makes you believe that there is something.
BTW, I am sorry i posted this is wrong section. I just thought this section was for Politics. Sorry for the trobule, MODS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_god Arguments against the existence of God Empirical arguments The problem of evil (or theodicy) in general, and the logical and evidential arguments from evil in particular contest the existence of a god who is both omnipotent and omnibenevolent by arguing that such a god would not permit the existence of perceivable evil or suffering, which can easily be shown to exist. The argument from nonbelief contests the existence of an omnipotent god who wants humans to believe in him by arguing that such a god would do a better job of gathering believers. This argument is contested by the claim that God wants to test humans to see who has the most faith. However, this assertion is dismissed by the argument surrounding the problem of evil. Deductive arguments The argument from free will contests the existence of an omniscient god who has free will by arguing that the two properties are contradictory. The counter-argument against the Cosmological argument ("chicken or the egg") states that if the Universe had to be created by God because it must have a creator, then God, in turn would have had to be created by some other God, and so on. This attacks the premise that the Universe is the second cause, (after God, who is claimed to be the first cause). A common response to this is that God exists outside of time and hence needs no cause. However, such arguments can also be applied to the universe itself - that since time began when the universe did, it is non-sensical to talk about a state "before" the universe which could have caused it, since cause requires time. (i really like this one ) Inductive arguments The "no reason" argument tries to show that an omnipotent or perfect being would not have any reason to act in any way, specifically creating the universe, because it would have no desires since the very concept of desire is subjectively human. As the universe exists, there is a contradiction, and therefore, an omnipotent god cannot exist.
The concept of God has been commercialized by the church, basterdised by fanaticts, used as a shield by the morally corrupt, basically used in every which was for personal agendas. I decided to believe in God, but not the God presented by any religion, I believe in my God. Whether my God actually exists or not is irrelevant in my life, as just my faith makes me a better person and I enjoy a rather good life.
In case anyone else was interested, here are the 15 religions with the most followers: Christianity 2.1 billion Islam 1.3 billion Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 1.1 billion Hinduism 900 million Chinese folk religion 394 million Buddhism 376 million Primal indigenous 300 million African traditional and diasporic 100 million Sikhism 23 million Juche 19 million Spiritism 15 million Judaism 14 million Mormonism 12 million Bahá'à Faith 7 million Jehovah's Witnesses 6.7 million