Has anyone actually read GD Legal Agreement with Domain Registrations? It doesnt mention not intervening in the case of a third party dispute, in fact it says that if legal action is taken they will suspend the account in question. So, 1 lawyer can file a disupute for X amount of names and the domains will all be frozen. Heres the link: check out sections 3,4,7 and 8 http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?pageid=REG_SA&ci=8058 I had to post this, these stolen domains are being used under false pretences and I will claim defamation of character. Check out the bold parts of that agreement, why have they not suspended the account????? "7. restriction of services; right of refusal You agree not to use the services provided by Go Daddy, or to allow or enable others, to use the services provided by Go Daddy for the purposes of: The transmission of unsolicited email (Spam). Repetitive, high volume inquires into any of the services provided by Go Daddy (i.e. domain name availability, etc.). If You are hosting Your domain's domain name servers ("DNS") on Go Daddy's servers, or are using our systems to forward a domain, URL, or otherwise to a system or site hosted elsewhere, or if You have your domain name registered with Go Daddy, You are responsible for ensuring that there is no excessive overloading on Go Daddy's DNS systems. You may not use Go Daddy's servers and Your domain as a source, intermediary, reply to address, or destination address for mail bombs, Internet packet flooding, packet corruption, or other abusive attack. Server hacking or other perpetration of security breaches is prohibited. You agree that Go Daddy reserves the right to deactivate Your domain name from its DNS system if Go Daddy deems it is the recipient of activities caused by your site that threaten the stability of its network. You agree that Go Daddy, in its sole discretion and without liability to You, may refuse to accept the registration of any domain name. Go Daddy also may in its sole discretion and without liability to You delete the registration of any domain name during the first thirty (30) days after registration has taken place. Go Daddy may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used, as determined by Go Daddy in its sole discretion, in association with spam or morally objectionable activities. Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to: activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties; activities prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which You conduct business; activities designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography; activities that are tortious, vulgar, obscene, invasive of the privacy of a third party, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable; activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party; and activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way. In the event Go Daddy refuses a registration or deletes an existing registration during the first thirty (30) days after registration, You will receive a refund of any fees paid to Go Daddy in connection with the registration either being canceled or refused. In the event Go Daddy deletes the registration of a domain name being used in association with spam or morally objectionable activities, no refund will be issued."
Yep, I read over that thing to and again, I agree with your bold points. . I actually asked the GoDaddy rep whom I spoke with to help me better understand it from there point of view because from what I read there really is no reason for them not to help me out. He refused saying he was not a lawyer, he then said I need to have a lawyer call their legal department.. Any lawyers wanna get some good PR, take this case for us?
Here is the link to report inconsistent WhoIs DISABLE POPUPS http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?se=+&app_hdr=
This is nothing new in the domain industry. I was almost a victim of this 4 letter scam. If I was willing to use Paypal I would have been a victim as well. The thing is Godaddy really can't do much. Who's to say that you are not trying to fraudulently acquire/steal the domains back after a legitimate sale? (Of course I know this is not what is going on. Just giving you their perspective). The same with Paypal. The buyer used a hacked account and made a fraudulent purchase. Paypal has 100% protection against this. Regardless of how large or small the seller is if it was a fraudulent purchase via a hacked account it will be reversed. If the PP account was not hijacked it is still very hard to win a dispute when it comes to a digital transaction. There is no signed shipping receipt etc. I have lost a lot of money due to this type of charge back as I sell subscriptions on one of my sites. There are TONS of lawsuits against PP some being class action suits but remember Paypal has DEEP pockets making it not worth the trouble in most cases. Unless you can prove damages in the $xxx,xxx range a lawsuit just wouldnt' be worth it IMO. The same would hold true for Godaddy. Once you agreed to the transfer they are out of the equation. If your account were hijacked it would be a different story. With all of that said I would think Godaddy could be of more assistance. They certainly have enough reps. to call me when my domains are up for renewal. I'm sure they could add a few employees to help with claims of fraudulent transactions. This would be more of a PR move than anything else. Keeping their customers happy would in turn increase their good will hence increasing their sales. At any rate the best thing we can do is be heard so others do not fall victim to these types of scams.
I THINK I GOT SOMETHING!!!! CHECK THIS LINK TO DESIHACKERZ.COM -- HUGE LEAD was the owner of the paypal account that paid me. This guy HKSTEVE posted the username, and password the same day I got scammed. Desi is Indian so its a possiblity that this dude is Indian and lives in Canada. I know not alot but we can trace HKSTEVE. Also the IP address comes up in the address bar: 209.85.207.104, it leads to GOOGLE--> People are paying this guy for stolen paypal accounts! Also look what his email is further down: IT ALL LEADS TO: YOU GUESSED IT! (THE AMAZING MEHBOOB) Someone please verify this! Registrant: Mehboob Charania 216 Willow Pointe Dr. League City, Texas 77573 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ILLEGALBLOG.COM Created on: 28-Apr-06 Expires on: 28-Apr-08 Last Updated on: 10-Feb-08 Administrative Contact: Charania, Mehboob 216 Willow Pointe Dr. League City, Texas 77573 United States 8322760754 Fax -- Technical Contact: Charania, Mehboob 216 Willow Pointe Dr. League City, Texas 77573 United States 8322760754 Fax --
mehboob is who gave me my domains back, he had all 20 saying they were sold to him about 10hrs after i got scammed from Linksys9/creampie (on here) Gearhut100 (on AIM) .... he also seemed to have all the domains that were scammed from that weekend other than beautyinmd's thats my 411, not much but its what i got it seems like a lot of PP & DP phishing going on either way
mehboob apparently was Axis9 on here....he posted in a thread on here & said he was the seller and to contact him about getting the domains back & gave his AIM name....so i contacted him & he pushed them back to me. He was "Cybershadow05" on AIM edit - i had called the # i found for him doing a reverse lookup earlier that day and apparently spoke w/ his daughter, she said he wasnt home.
I contacted Mehoob and he is claiming complete innocense,the best way is to forward this info to FBI and let them pick him up.
You would think with all of Paypal's security measures they claim to have in place and all of the people working over there that they would figure out the easiest way to combat this is to suspend accounts with multiple charge backs within a 24 hour time frame or something along those lines. Hell a couple a month should be too much. I haven't had to do it once in the 7-8 years I've been with them.
Absolutely...there is pretty much factual data that he was in posession of the Paypal Username: and the password on the same day that he scammed me and 5 other people...hmmm...coincidence i think not. He then posted the username and password to get others to be the scapegoat, making him look innocent and hoping the guilt of others would divert attention
i think the fault stays on the people who get scammed... You are always taught that everyone should protect you and when it does not happen, you start to cry like a baby. Be a men, and deal with your situation. Why do you rely on paypal and godaddy? IT is YOUR responsability, and YOUR fault. It is like someone is coming to ask you to rent a car for a while, you give him the keys, he steals the car, and after that you go and cry to the police cause you got your car stolen. It is YOUR fault, cause you landed the car in the first place. If you were to buy the domains directly from godaddy, or use a broker for transactions-like sedo- then there would not be any problems. But once you decide to deal directly with people, then make sure to find out who are you dealing with. Lots of losers here complaining they get scammed... You do not want to get scammed? Use a broker agency if you are incapable of protecting yourself.
im not crying, nor am i relying on GD or PP. im trying to solve this problem alone. im simply warning fellow domainers about what can happen to them if they dont take the necessary precautions
u certainly have a fucked up view of things....now its the innocents/honest peoples fault that they get scammed by someone who steals legit accounts & acts in such a way to seem legit. PP & GD have loopholes and this scammer is exploiting those for his/her own gain. There are lessons to be learned here for sure, but its not pointing the finger at those honest people who've gotten taken, the finger needs to be pointed at the fucking theives.
lots of stuff on NP pointed towards him, he claimed it wasnt and seemed helpful....but its odd that most of the domains were w/ him & so much shit pointed towards him. hard to say though
why dont u people just get DP to get the ips of the people or the id which you have been buying from on dp. maybe that will help?
they cant do that, ive already asked. why dont you just PM me the email or handle of the guy that you bought these names from, because he is the culprit and your involved