PR8 with 1000 outgoing links, does it still count?

Discussion in 'Google' started by Lorelei, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. #1
    I wanted to ask, if one places his link on a PR8 page, but there are over 1000 outgoing links on that pages, does it still count towards the link juice or with such an amount of external links its pretty useless and having a more quality PR5 will be more beneficial?
     
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  2. vagrant

    vagrant Peon

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    1000 links on one page, don't even bother with it :) unless they all point to pages on your site ;)
     
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  3. Lorelei

    Lorelei Notable Member

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    lol, i guess that won't be cheap anymore :D
     
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    Waste of money.
     
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    #5
    In terms of pure PageRank, a PR8 with 1000 outgoing links is about the same as:

    - A PR7 page with 167 outgoing links
    - A PR6 page with 28 outgoing links
    - A PR5 page with 5 outgoing links

    Of course, you also have to wonder if Google indexes the entire page, or just the first xxKB. That could mean that not all 1000 links are counted and they're worth a bit more, but it also means that your link might not be worth a thing.

    Also, the page could be viewed as a link farm and be completely worthless.
     
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  6. mhmdkhamis

    mhmdkhamis Well-Known Member

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    #6
    from where you say that
     
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    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #7
    you wouldn't want that either...
     
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  9. lkj

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    It should be not more than 100 outgoing links per page... Please read google webmaster FAQ ;)
     
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  10. mickmel

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    It's widely believed that each level of PR requires about 6 times the link juice of the previous level. For example, a PR5 takes 6 times as many links as a PR4. Most people think it's either 5x or 6x, though only Google knows for sure. I tend to think it's around 6x.

    Based on that, you have:

    PR8, 1 link out of 1000
    PR7, 1 link out of 1000/6 = 1 link out of 167
    PR6, 1 link out of 1000/6/6 = 1 link out of 28
    PR5, 1 link out of 1000/6/6/6 = 1 link out of 5
     
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    This is new to me. Thanks for sharing. I know we don't really know the exact number but for reference it is good enough.
     
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    boxer126 Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:

    Nobody on this forum ever provides any fact. It's always speculation or hear-say. Lorelei, to answer your question, nobody here knows. Ask Google.

    -boxer126
     
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  13. Australianfranchises

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    #13
    This is even new to me also,
    could you provide me any one resource on web that mentioned these details,
    if you able to give than i would like to say thanks for that.
    and if you are failed to provide the exact details than it's totally waste of time.

     
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  14. dpking

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    #14
    Always remember not to have more then 100 Links on a webpage !!
    You can have more then 100+ links only if you have a big website and having all quality links like wikipedia .. :)
    Always remember paid links sux.
    Google will kick you
    1) If the content of the website you purchased a link don't matches to the topic of your website.
    2) If Google will think your link is placed just to pass the pagerank.
    You can also have a look into this blog post .. this might be helpful .... Exchanging Links Just a SEO Mistake
     
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  15. mickmel

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    #15
    There are two points to make to respond to this:

    1 - It's obvious that it's a logarithmic scale. Everyone knows that there are far more PR9 sites than PR10, and far more PR8 sites than PR9, etc.
    2 - No one can prove exactly what the scale is other than Google, and they aren't talking. It's anyone's guess. I've seen estimates from 5x to 10x, but I tend to fall in the 5-6 area.

    This site suggests a scale of 7:
    http://pr4webmaster.blogspot.com/2008/01/recapitulation-of-real-page-rank-values.html

    This site suggests a scale of 4:
    http://www.sitepoint.com/article/top-10-google-myths-revealed

    This site suggests a scale of 5-10:
    http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/...nk-A-Guide-For-Small-Business-Executives.aspx

    This site suggests a scale of 7.8:
    http://www.sciencebits.com/OnGooglePR

    This site suggests a scale of 10:
    http://www.theinternetdigest.net/articles/uncovering-google-pagerank.html

    Pick whatever answer you like best, but it seems pretty clear that the answer is in the 5-10 range.
     
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    thanks everyone for your replies, and mickmel, like many who posted above me, I never heard of this PR calculation either so your post very much educated me :) Thank you!
     
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  17. astup1didiot

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    #17
    Those calculations are garbage, end of stoy. :cool:
     
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    #18
    Targetting lower level websites PR 3 and below isn't bad either as long as they have good management. It's easier to get links on lower PR sites and most of the time they are working on increasing their PR anyways. So maybe in a few months you will have links on PR 5+ sites when originally they were only PR 2. Lol does that make sense?
     
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    Nobody knows exactlly the algorithm so we can only supose. But for sure 1000 links is way over the line...I wont pay for a PR7 link on a that kind of page for sure
     
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