Need your advice

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Chr1ssst0pher, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. #1
    So, I've read threads about getting listed in Dmoz directory but still can't get it.. what should I do? My site is developed well and its PR is quite high... I've submitted it more than 3 months ago and still no result. I don't want to spam Dmoz so what should I do? Wait? I've selected proper niche and so on... Just wait or make some actions?
    Thanx a lot in advance
     
    Chr1ssst0pher, Jan 30, 2008 IP
  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    If your site fits within their guidelines and you have submitted it, then there is nothing you can do. Just promote your site through other means, and keep on building your content. Eventually an editor will find it in the queue, or on google, and it'll get added... or it wont. Heh.. That is the nature of the beast, that is DMOZ (thanks to whoever first said that).

    Nice name by the way ;)
    Q
     
    Qryztufre, Jan 30, 2008 IP
  3. Chr1ssst0pher

    Chr1ssst0pher Peon

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    Thanx... sounds really encouraging:) Now this is not the matter of getting that link more like why can't i do that???
     
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    Subcitizen Peon

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    I've been waiting for almost a year, and haven't had any luck being included in DMOZ. Keep a stiff upper lip.
     
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    mizpah14 Peon

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    I see some sites getting three or more listings in ODP. Then I hear of sites submitted few months or years ago that are not yet listed. What's happening?
     
    mizpah14, Feb 15, 2008 IP
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    budalata Peon

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    Hello mizpah14,

    have seen a lot of your posts...thats why would like to give you some answers. But I really wonder why you asked some of them in case that you applied for editor - in our editing Guidelines there are a lot of answers about what you are asking about.

    Correct. IF different editors find valuable content fitting well to the scope of different cats, there is nothing unusuall.

    To remind you - we are volunteers. We do what we can. ODP is not a listing service, and we dont include every single site. Some editors are more active than others. Thats all. ODP listing is not a life or death matter.

    With what?

    Regards
     
    budalata, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  7. Gniuz

    Gniuz Peon

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    Hi budalata,

    Need to ask a favour from you. Can you help to check my site application status ( sg-house.com ).

    I have submitted the site for almost 2 years by now. I want to know if I need to submit application again.

    Kindly ignore this if you feel my request is not appropriate.

    Thanks...
     
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  8. budalata

    budalata Peon

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    Sorry, avoid to discuss particular sites.
    Just one tip - think about it - in your previous thread you specify that this site is about Real Estates. Why?
     
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  9. mizpah14

    mizpah14 Peon

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    Hi Budalata!

    Thank you for responding to my inquiries. My inquiries are simply based on posts that I read from disgruntled applicants. I understand that this is a voluntary service and not a paid one. And for this, I applaud those editors who are doing their best to help. But I disagree with the reasoning that since this is a voluntary service that we cannot expect some reasonable outcome. Paid or not, service is service. It's the motivation behind it that counts.
     
    mizpah14, Feb 16, 2008 IP
  10. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    That's what editors have been trying to explain... it is NOT a service, it isn't designed to be. Common misconception.

    It is a directory, a very large one, the contents of which are determined by the volunteers within. They do not promise, suggest, or even imply that they will add every site that fits a certain criteria, even if "suggested" from outside.

    If you want a free directory that does make that offer, you'll have to start it. ODP doesn't and never did, and it isn't vaguely logical to be mad at them for not performing a function they never promised to offer but you think they should have.

    COMPARISON
    It's no different from someone getting mad at you for not being a professional chef and cooking their meals. You never said you would do that, you probably don't have the facility in place to offer it anyway... and the fact they really really feel you should doesn't really form a binding obligation.

    If you pay at a pay-for-review directory, you have paid for a service because they offered it. If you suggest a site to the Open Directory, you've simply put your site in front of them that they may consider it for inclusion should the43y choose to. That's all.
     
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  11. mizpah14

    mizpah14 Peon

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    The fact that there is a "submit link" in the ODP site is an invitation to the public for the intended service. Of course, submissions have to fit ODP's standard.

    The fact that ODP is where it is at today is a testament of the service rendered.

    Your reasoning that editors are volunteers and therefore no expectations can be imposed upon them is self-defeating. This reasoning re-enforces the idea that ODP editors are simply there for self-serving reasons. Of course, for majority of editors this is not the case.

    Volunteerism is not an excuse for not accomplishing something. Time constrains are.
     
    mizpah14, Feb 17, 2008 IP
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    robjones Notable Member

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    Hey, the only free service we ever offered was that we built a directory for surfers to look at and for SEs and other directories to use freely in database form. It is not a listing service for webmasters, and the "suggest a site" link doesn't change that. This is your misunderstanding... not the directory's misrepresentation or failure to perform. People are allowed to suggest sites for inclusion, but there has never at any point been a suggestion we offer the "service" you seek.

    You don't personally decide what the ODPs mission or purpose should be. The guys that designed it made that call in about 1998. If you want a free listing service, start your own directory. We'll gladly all submit our sites and then tell you how to run it.

    BTW... I believe you should build me a website. For free. I don't care that you never offered to, I just think you should. In fact I think you owe it to me.

    Get right on that, OK?;)
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    They know for a fact Rob that even other directories has a Suggest Site button but never complains. Take Yahoo for example. ;)
    Do you need a flash site, html, xhtml or os commerce. :D
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    Heck, no complaint here, I'm just explaining to someone that had one. If you pull out a credit card and "suggest" a site to Yahoo... they will look at it and make an up/down call in a timely manner. It is a service they offer.

    ODP doesn't ask for a credit card, and the site suggestion link is just that, an offer to let you make a suggestion. Anyone that thinks a suggestion forms a binding obligation is outta touch with reality.

    BTW popo... As for my site... hell you've seen it, you couldn't do worse. Just knock somethin together. I'd like it by Monday. ;)
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    There is a free suggest at Yahoo both in main and regional but who knows WHEN their sites going to be listed ? Most webmasters who complains are so cheap that they want a free listing and LIST ME NOW or else attitude.

    Monday is a holiday. Presidents Day. :p
    Site needs overhaul in terms of design and seo especially for real estate. But its ok.
     
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    Overhaul? Heck, that's a generous assessment. It's a decade old and is possibly the only site on the net pieced together with duct-tape and baling wire. I was sorta hoping you'd just build me a new one.

    And what's this about a holiday? Hey this is MY fantasy, not yours... get movin!:D
     
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    Site reminds me of the hippie era. Peace man. :D
     
    popotalk, Feb 17, 2008 IP