United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. Hon Daddy Dad

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    #521
    I don't think Bill Clinton was as bad as Bush economically speaking. I think George W will go down as the worst president in history or maybe the next president whoever that maybe. They'll also cop the flak.

    The two wars have pushed the US into bankruptcy.

    The fact is Bill Clinton spent much less than George W Bush. Any economic gains over the last 30 years were made by private enterprise. Governments only spend they do not create. The best government is the one that taxes and spends the least. That's why George W Bush is so far the worst because he's spent the most out of any president.
     
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    #522
    When Clinton was in power the Republicans actually stuck by their supposed ideals of cutting government spending. Annual increases slowed, welfare was majorly overhauled to reduce eligibility, and the government even shut down for three weeks because the Republican Congress refused to pass legislation if the spending was too high.

    Reagan and Bush "worked well with Congress" and passed every stupid funding idea the legislators could come up with. Thats what I think is bad for the economy - a government that quickly advances its own agenda. Not necessarily one party or the other as they would both love a chance to spend our money.
     
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  3. wisdomtool

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    #523
    I think Bush will have the honor, the next President can always put the blame on Bush :)


     
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    #524
    The stock market may look all good and shit but have you taken a look at the corporate bond market?
     
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    #525
    The stock market is a pig and so are all the bond markets.
     
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    What do you mean they are "pigs". :confused:
     
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    #527
    They suck and go oink.
     
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    #529
    When Bernanke gets on TV. RUN AWAY from the market
     
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  10. wisdomtool

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    #530
    You should say that one day before he appear, not one day after he appear :(

     
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    Shazz Prominent Member

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    For future references :p
    I still don't see how people like him, there smart but have no clue!
     
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    #532
    Greenspan says the odds are 50 percent or better the country is headed toward a recession. The housing market also has a long way to bottom out according to Greenspan. Greenspan should now cause he created the mess we are in.

    Greenspan said the recent credit crunch hasn't hit U.S. businesses particularly hard. That's because the Fed is printing money like there is no tomorrow and there's plenty of cash out there.

    Greenspan said he thinks the housing market will continue to erode until the cause of the deterioration ends.

    "Where all the problem is coming from is the continuous marking down of the value of those subprime securities," he said. "Until we stabilize the price level of homes ... you're going to continuously get loss estimates" from banks and other financial institutions.

    When might the housing crisis hit rock bottom, Yergin asked.

    The country still has "a long way to go," Greenspan responded.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215...t_greenspan;_ylt=Aqpwl3BrvkChohJeovPTvvmyBhIF
     
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    #533
    I think he claimed it is not his fault, as he said at that time, what he was doing was the right thing to do.

     
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    #534
    Greenspan is a funny guy :D

    He fixed the tech bubble with a housing bubble
     
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    Well you really can't saw which is worse, anyway both are bubbles :)

     
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    #536
    Housing bubble is worse because there is going to be a lot of people put out on the street once they loose their homes.
     
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    #537
    Well I guess, as long as the bubble does not occur during his time in office it was good. Bernanke must really thank his predecessor.

     
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    #538
    Benanke is in some hot water.

    Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker is predicting the coming recession may be among the worst. He predicts that the Fed will have to raise interest rates to double digits to control inflation.
     
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    I feel that at this moment the former Fed Chairmen should keep their mouth shut so that at least there are some leeway for Bernanke to get things done instead of being chained by past events. Easy for Greenspan and Paul Volcker but I think if they are in Bernanke shoes they would also start losing hair.

     
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    #540
    Paul Volcker went through some tuff times with the 1981 recession. The Fed rate went to 20%
     
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