What would Jesus do?

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #41
    even if someone does claim it is random chance (which they don't), This random chance is still more likely than the infinitely complex "designer" that you claim is responsible.

    what makes you people disingenuous is that you claim the universe is too complex to have arose by it's self, and then invoke and infinitely more complex agent as the first cause. Pick one. Do you believe in the unlikely or not? if you do it would make more sense that you would pick the less complex unlikely scenario (that the universe arose randomly) than the infinitely more complex unlikely event that an invisible magic man in the sky done it.

    What gets on peoples nerves is that you don't invoke agents to solve a problem, You instead find a problem in order to invoke the agent, and then claim that the agent you invoked isn't subject to the same laws that required him in the first place.
     
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    #42
    All material wealth and riches are created from the harnessing of energy.

    Currently the world uses around 0.5 ZJ (= 5 x 1020 J) per year. For everyone to use the same amount of energy per capita as the US total world energy consumption would need to be around 2.5 ZJ at current population.

    The total solar energy available to the earth is approximately 3850 zettajoules (ZJ) per year.[12]

    Oceans absorb approximately 285 ZJ of solar energy per year.

    Winds can theoretically supply 6 ZJ of energy per year.[13]

    Biomass captures approximately 1.8 ZJ of solar energy per year.[14][15]

    All we need to do is commit our best minds to refining the efficient use of renewable energies.

    Currently many of our most talented people waste their time creating and promoting superficial consumables, gambling on financial markets, and making made for adsense websites.;)
     
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    #43
    ...and you see no issues with this? Seriously?
     
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    #44
    Why would they? They are inherently credulous, subservient drones who do as they are told... it's a relief for them to not have to think for themselves.
     
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    #45
    The contribution needs to be made by the starving people. And guess what that decision is? Not to fucking breed. Common sense 101, if you're dirt poor:
    DO
    NOT
    BREED.

    Ignorance should not be rewarded. However you donating is of course up to you :)

    Ha interesting you say that, I was about to paste the definition of drone from dictionary.com. Priceless :)
     
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  6. Hon Daddy Dad

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    #46
    Actually breeding, or population growth, is the foundation of economic growth.
     
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    #47
    yeah, but when are we going to stop? How much do economies really have to be? Is it really worth overpopulating the planet and stripping it of it's resources so governments can proudly say "hey, look, our economy is larger "? I mean sooner or later there will simply be too many people on the planet. How are we going to get food and water for all? Can you even imagine what will happen if China and India get a western-like middle class?
     
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    #48
    At some stage there will probably be a massive population crash.
     
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    #49
    What is Jesus?
     
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    #50
    Strange. I'm not sure that holds water.

    In the Soviet system, more breeding wouldn't have solved the economic collapse.
     
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    #51
    Perhaps not a foundation but, it can be a strong factor. Population growth means more goods and services need to be produced to support the new population. It also can influence real property prices.

    Demographic spending patterns and the population growth rate of a demographic can effect economic growth also.
     
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    #53
    Jesus said a slap.

    Meaning a minor physical offense.

    Killing you and your family is totally different.

    He was speaking as a figure of speech.

    In that same chapter he said if your right hand causes you to sin cut it off.

    We know are hands don't take control of us and move on there own.

    It also was a figure of speech about the seriousness of sin.

    And the slap was a figure of speech about not taking offense to a minor physical assaults.

    Everyone must protect there family against death, anyone who thinks other wise is wicked and must be the one who wants to harm your family.
     
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    #54
    Would u say that sending peoples kids to war over a lie is also an evil act then?
     
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    #55
    If that's the case why did many early Christian's allow themselves to be slaughtered by the romans? Why did they not resist?

     
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    #56
    Because of the promise that God will repay. He said "vengeance is mine. I will repay."

    This is God's fight and not man's. If we fight and war with other men, then we are not trusting in God to fulfil his promises.
     
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    #57
    argument from ignorance evoking the god of the gaps.
    "I don't know how it happened, God must have done it"

    What are their names?

    A microbiologist has theories on cosmology?

    I categorically said nobody says that. try doing some reading between your dishonest attempts at misinterpreting what people are claiming. What i said is that we don't need your invisible man in the sky myth to explain anything.

    I don't know how the laws came to be what they are. So what? that doesn't mean your invisible sky daddy done it.

    Like i said, If you have a case to present you should present it. I'm not prepared to spend an hour of my time watching a video that makes your case for you. This is a discussion, Not a lecture.

    Do you actually have any evidence to support your "designer" story? or do you entirely rely on the god of gaps fallacy? You seem to think that because you don't personally understand how something happened that god must have done it. that is NOT evidence.
     
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    #58
    how is it less likely that the universe simply always existed than god simply always existing and creating some pitiful creatures to warship him on a piece of rock?

    How can you claim what other people believe is a myth but what you believe is true? Do you realise that whatever religion you are there are still about 4-5 billion people who believe something different? Don't you think it's arrogant to say "I have the absolute truth while the other 4 billion people are completely wrong"? Don't you see that a muslim guy or a buddhist or hindu guy can say exactly the same thing and they can probably show me a book saying what they believe is true and a bunch of "miracles" as proof? How is your book and your beliefs more likely to be true than their beliefs? Why should I believe you instead of them?
     
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    #59
    I think I agree with the thread starter. That's a tough one though. I don't think I could let somebody kill me or my family without fighting back. It's too much of a primal drive. When it came down to it, I'd react.

    Alot of the things Jesus said were to make the Pharisees realize that they could never be perfect without His blood sacrifice though--at least that's what I'm starting to see in my studies of The Word.
     
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