LinkVana Review - New 1-Way Linking System

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by popedope, Dec 28, 2007.

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  1. YoungSmeagol

    YoungSmeagol Well-Known Member

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    #21
    It does take them a while to outsource those posts. On the bright side, the posts only require 100 words or so.
     
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    #22
    Not sure how linkvana got the link wrong because when you do them manually you actually put the link in the post yourself??

    I have been very impressed with the service so far. all of my links have been on good blogs, with good pr and the blogs themselves had good links coming into them. And I have followed david kelly for a long time and I know he would not do the "fake pr" thing like another service I belonged to did.

    I mostly do the posts myself but I did do a couple projects with the outsourced service. 1 project took a couple weeks the next one took 3 days, and they were written well. And I am already seeing rank for my first sites keywords. I like it. If you have to search real hard to see value, then it is probably not for you. just my opinion.
     
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  3. popedope

    popedope Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Well Dave actually basically admitted to me in an email that the integrity of the PR of the network isn't top notch (I found a few sites with fake PR).

    He said that spiderability is the main thing, not PR which I kind of agree with him on...
     
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    #24
    Are you sure it was fake pr? like goole this: cache: (blog domain with the www)
    If at the top it says "This is G o o g l e's cache of (same domain)", they are not fake.

    If you have found one that does not match (which I haven't) you should send a support ticket with those urls. I don't think he would wait one second to make sure his network was not top notch.

    I have found a couple of my posts, very small percentage, that had pr0 or pr1 but after researching them they were 4+ years old or they had a bunch of backlinks in yahoo. so I agree with you that pr is not always that big a deal. :)
     
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    stevemence Peon

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    #25
    duplicate pages? There are no duplicate pages. All content that you supply to get the links is unique. You put in 1 unique post around 100-150 words, it gets posted to one blog and you get 1 good link. There is no duplicate content. And your suggestion of spinning content would basically do exactly what you are complaining about. letting spun crap on the blogs would be the worst thing for any of us that like using linkvana and are getting good rankings.

    and it is against the terms to give out the blog sites, and they are supposed to change all the time anyway. but I just checked the cache of the last post i found - "This is G o o g l e's cache of http : // www (correct domain)/ as retrieved on 7 Feb 2008 11:13:21 GMT." It was not fake at all, it was a pr3, the blog had 5 unpaid backlinks pr4-5 registered in google, and it had 215 backlinks from different domains registered in yahoo. And the link on that blog costs me 100+ words worth of time. if you don't see the value in that as I said, it is not for you.

    ps i know you probably think I am David Kelly, I am not. and as you can see I am not putting an affiliate link here. It is a good service and i dont like when people dismiss things they dont know about, so I am sorry if I am coming across as jerky. :)
     
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  6. YoungSmeagol

    YoungSmeagol Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Wow, so they only post your article on 1 blog at a time?

    That means I would need like 50 or so posts per URL to see any benefit. I ordered about 13 outsourced posts and they took their sweet time getting them done. A week had gone by without me getting my posts so I just canceled the service.

    However, that still doesn't address the fact that your post is posted on a blog and eventually your post gets pushed back into the archive and off the first page.

    No that's simply not true.

    A good article spun by hand (manually not automatically) will sound just fine. All you need is for a writer to write one article then write a second article which is just a spin of the first article. Then you just alternate between two sentences and each sentence has the same meaning.

    If you're a Native English speaker you can read the article and tell that it sounds just fine. If it doesn't sound right then don't post it, plain and simple.

    I never said give out the blog site. I said give out your URL, your homepage or whatever url you link to.

    I also didn't say anything about fake PR either. It could be a PR 5 blog post but it doesn't really matter if your post is buried in the archives.

    Well, I'm glad you are trying to keep this conversation civil. I already paid for the service but I'm also paying for 3waylinks.net, which seems like a much smoother service.

    For $147 per month and $2 per post it's steep. Especially considering that I can get a PR 2 permanent one way link for $5 per link.

    $200 for 40 PR 2+ links. The link pages themselves are PR 2+ not just the blog/site.

    Honestly, I think buying a PR 7 link is a better deal when you consider how much it benefits the entire domain.
     
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    shadoze Well-Known Member

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    #27
    I'm the owner of LinkVana and I can assure you that no one is spamming the blogs.. we control the distribution rate of posting to the blogs.. and Every post is reviewed before it is allowed into the network..

    We alos monitor the content, no adult, dating, personals, warez, gambling etc..

    It's quite a bit different than other blog networks.
     
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  8. popedope

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    #28
    The "network" is owned by shadoze - not other people. This means that you're paying $150 a month for access to this guy's hard work in the form of a collection of 100's of high quality blogs.

    Not only that, but his system has been set up to provide you with a semi-automated way to get one-way links. If you paid a company or freelancer to do this, you wouldn't get nearly as many of the links this service provides for the cost.

    For the doubters out there - it's basically writing your own posts and posting them on high quality blogs for a small cost per link. Imagine if you used the likes of Pay Per Post to do this - you would likely be charged $10 per article (and link) for the same thing (I think PPP might have made all the links nofollow now anyway).

    I actually ended up spinning some of the articles I was writing - however my posts were getting flagged by their moderators and Dave contacted me.

    It's far better to have unique content with a link inside than spun content. I know Google's only a robot, but it's a damn clever one and can often sniff out crap...

    Which is why this network is so good. It's basically a bullet-proof way to get high quality one-way links right to your site - all dofollow and all surrounded by high quality relevant content.

    It definitely beats the $7 for 1000000 instant backlink offerings that some blog network owners are offering now.
     
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    #29
    I agree with you popedope... the service works, and if you know what you are doing with picking good niches it is an unbelievable value.

    "For $147 per month and $2 per post it's steep."

    No, it is not $2 per post.
    It is $2 per post if you use outsourcing, which is not the default. The default is you write the posts yourself right into the interface. Except for 2 projects in linkvana, I have done all my own posts, cause they are easy for me. So if you don't have their outsource service write your projects, it is only 147, no extra fees at all. sometimes I wonder if some of the people commenting in here are competitors with David Kelly or something? :rolleyes: just kidding, kind of.

    147 might be more than what most people are used too for just 1 link service, but I paid 250 for the other service. and that service let so much junk get on their network it was basically pure crap when i left, and unlike David K those other guys just left emails and support requests unchecked, they didn't fix problems, didn't try to stop markov stuff being posted. linkvana is so much better. linkvana works, and is a drop in the bucket compared to what i used to spend on links. I am going to leave this forum thread alone now. good luck to you all. :)
     
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  10. YoungSmeagol

    YoungSmeagol Well-Known Member

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    #31
    I bought the minimum amount of credit ($50) so I want 25 outsourced posts. 2 weeks have gone by and none have been done yet. What happens if none are completed within the month, and I cancel my subscription (which is highly likely) ? Do I lose 50 bucks on top of the 150 bucks ?
     
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    YoungSmeagol Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. I closed out my account then reopened it and they were still in the queue.

    I'd suggest going somewhere else for articles. All you need is 100 words so you could get almost anyone to do it.
     
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    #33
    But where am I going to find someone to write decent quality 100 word posts for less than $2 ?

    Do you know anyone?
     
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    #34
    Dave Kelly's obviously found someone. I don't know about how long those posts take - but if it's anything over a month, why not take it up with the man himself and see about a reduced monthly rate or something?
     
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    #35
    Need-an-article.net

    They aren't fast but they'll definitely be finished in less than a week. 1 article is $5.50 but it's 550 words instead of 100 words like linkvana.

    Tell them to write you one article with 5 subheadings (at least 100 words per subheading) and no introduction. Then use each subheading to make a linkvana post. They write decent enough. No spelling errors etc.. The only problem I have with them is that they ask you to provide them with sources. So do a simple google search and give them two articles to use as sources.
     
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    #36
    One other thing that really disappoints me about Linkvana - they don't tell you where the posts are published :mad:

    You have to track them down manually by doing intext or intitle searches on Google, and this isn't always a guarantee of finding them.

    If they're taking 150 bucks a month from you, I want proof that these posts were published. How can they not see that this is only fair ????
     
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    #37
    I can see your point but that's one of the major selling points of the system and why it's worth $150 a month.

    If Dave published the blogs in the network, it only takes one person to go into the Google's webmaster tools and "report a paid link" to devalue the link forever.

    This means that although you will be getting more of a reassurance on your part for being able to see where your links are, if you look at it from the point of view of the system in general and the value it has you should see that it's far more important to keep the blogs secret than not. If G finds a blog and cancels all its linking power then you don't have any links of worth which u paid $150 for.

    It's one of those things that you would want but for the best, you can't have. I've just accepted the fact that my links are being posted. Why? Well - I've got plenty of top 10 rankings to show for it!
     
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    #38
    The outsourcing system is working pretty well. I've gotten 50 posts or so outsourced so far. I like the natural linking system and the fact that the blogs have a little bit of PR.
     
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    Well that might be acceptable if you're just using those links to promote your own site, but if you're promoting several sites for clients, I'd like to see the reaction you get when you tell your client, "hey, I've got you 100 blog post links this month, but I can't tell you where they are, you'll just have to trust me" "by the way, I'm billing you for the service" :rolleyes:
     
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    Even if you could tell them where the link is it's still a hard sell. It's hard to explain to people why this service is worth paying for. The blog might be a PR 4 but the page where your link ultimately ends up has no PR.

    It took me a while before I even understood what the service did or how I could use it.

    You definitely couldn't sell the service on a per link basis.
     
    YoungSmeagol, Feb 25, 2008 IP
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