American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #841
    Trying to compare the Irish Question to the conflict in the middle east is not a valid comparision.

    The Arabs want to base peace on exchage of land of peace. Isreal doesn't have enough land. Israel has 8019 sq miles. Ireland in comparision has 68,890 sq km with a population of 4.1 million and Northern Ireland is 5,459 square miles with 1,685,000 people.

    The roots of the Irish problem stem from the immigration of Ulster Scot or Scotch-Irish in the 16th century. There is plenty of land and in fact Ireland has negative demographics.

    On the other hand as of 2008, Israel's population reached 7.241 million residents. Of this figure, 75.6 percent are Jewish (5.472 million), 20% are Arab (1.449 million) and 4.4% (320,000) are ‘others’

    Including the West Bank and Gaza there are approx 5 million Arabs and 5 million Jews.

    The Arabs also demand the right of return for 5 million Arabs in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria. As a sign of peace why doesn't the Arab governments grant their brothers full citzenship. In fact almost all these refugees werren't even born in Israel. Even the US gives citzenship to illegal aliens born in the US and the Arabs refuse to give citzenship to their brothers.

    It's very clear that they do not want peace.

    For your history lesson: Israel is the historic homeland of the Jews. In 1910 the population of Jerusalem was 45,000 Jews and 12,000 Arabs.
     
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  2. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    #842
    :rolleyes:


    The plantations were used by Britain to try and control more of the land they occupied in the North, its where they faced most resistance from the clans who had been against the occupation of their land.

    Sounds familiar doesn't it?

    Tell you what Bogart. I'll have my mother say a decade of the rosary for you as its clear your Jewish background has led you down the wrong path to bigotry and close mindedness. You could do with some Catholicism in your life.

    Its clear from all your DP hate posts that YOU also don't want peace. You want to destroy other religions and other cultures for your own personal beliefs.
     
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  3. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #843
    I'm not Jewish not that there is anything wrong with that. My last daughter is named Erin.
     
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  4. cormac

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    #844
    Dam! I asked about your religious background before but you didn't answer. Thought I'd try and rustle your feathers and see if you'd give. :p

    I like the name Erin.
     
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  5. Valley

    Valley Peon

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    #845
    1648!!
    I don't think many boyos will agree with that
    And there was me thinking that the trobles were caused by sectarianism at the turn of the last centurary, and Limerick gang warfare in the 20 th centurary
     
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  6. cormac

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    #846
    You think right that the troubles had been caused over sectarianism but the core of that problem is that the boyos (on both sides) are still living in history, dating right back to the 1600's. The Battle of the Boyne is just one example of many and I know a few people that still bark about that battle. Sure same thing with Limerick but these ones living right in the past are serious hardcore about it.
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #847
    Wow. That was very possibly the most hateful and ridiculously stupid thing I have ever read on DP.
     
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  8. cormac

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    #848
    So you dont read your own Muslim bashing posts then Will?
     
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  9. bogart

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    #849
    The bog differences between Ireland and Israel is that Ireland has 74 million sq miles of land and less than 6 million people.

    Israel has 7 million people and there are 15 million Palestinians claiming its 8 million square miles and a goot portion of that is the Negev desert.

    Israel doesn't have land to give for peace.

    The Arabs have to do something to assimilate their 5 million Arab brothers that have have three generation born on their soil.
     
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    #850
    Is that a keyboard stutter?
     
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  11. bogart

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    #851
    O.K. I'll get back to this. I've got to go and get some grey goose kind of money but I'll be back later tonight :D
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #852
    Grey Goose?

    I must take this opportunity to plug Tito's Handmade Vodka. :D

    It makes Grey Goose taste like swamp water.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #853
    I don't bash Muslims. I bash Islam. Most victims of Islam are Muslims.

    For every Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or Atheist murdered by an Islamist, there are dozens of Muslims murdered by Islamists.

    Moreover, although we in Dar al Harb live with the notion of terrorism, the people who live in Dar al Islam often live with the constant threat of real terrorism -- the constant threat of being murdered or raped at any moment.

    Earlier this week, my wife was telling me a story from one time she visited Egypt. A mother wasn't watching her six year old daughter on a city bus and a man on the bus molested the girl. Although there were many witnesses to the crime, the man was not convicted because the court felt that, by leaving her six year old daughter unattended, she had created more temptation than the man could reasonably be expected to bear. The court felt that the incident was the mothers fault, not the rapists. The rapist was let go.

    Who here has any sympathy for that little girl -- who is now scarred for life. How will she marry in the Muslim world, with her hymen broken and her virginity stolen at age six? Certainly not the Islamists! They do nothing but deny any faults in the system of Islam. They have no sympathy and no care. They have no concern at all for the victims of Islam. They care only about themselves and their own animal needs.

    It's only compassionate people like myself, Debunked, GTech, Mia, Lorien1973, Bogart, etc... who want to see a better life for these people.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #854
    It's interesting you tell this story. This is exactly how many American's react to the War on Terror.. They feel that "we" as a country have some how "created more temptation" for terrorists to hate us...

    I love how people shift blame... One has to wonder if the vast majority of those moonbats in the US that share this ideology have not been somehow affected by Islam.. What else could cause such irrational behavior?


    And we are hated for it.. Go figure? Strange ideology.
     
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    #855
    Is that why each one of you pick on DP members that may believe in Islam? Calling them terrorists, throwing insults about homosexulaity etc etc.

    Does it make you feel better to insult these members that may actually lead a better life than you ever would?

    Oh and the story you told, yes its very tragic alright along with so many others.
     
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    #856
    Is that why each one of you pick on DP members that may believe in Islam? Calling them terrorists, throwing insults about homosexulaity etc etc.

    Does it make you feel better to insult these members that may actually lead a better life than you ever would?

    Oh and the story you told, yes its very tragic alright along with so many others.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #857
    No one is picking on anyone.. If you feel that you are being picked on, then you probably have some self worth issues, or insecurities. When someone calls the kettle black, it's probably black... No need to gloss over reality with niceties just to save a few feelings..

    I think you really need to spend a bit more time here reading posts by those members you feel this way about before you make such an ignorant assessment.

    If you found Will's comments insulting, I would suggest seeking some immediate medical attention. That or calm down, step back for a minute, and take everything as a whole into the proper context. Re-read what he said, and then try to keep an open mind. It is not insulting to suggest that hatred is wrong.


    It's not tragic, it's sad.. Tragedies generally cannot be prevented.. This could have and still can. Rejecting the teachings that promote and condone this type of behavior is a start.
     
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    #858
    The islamist love the fact that so many Americans are ignorant. It will be easy to sway them over to the dark side, because their thinkin' is already stinkin'.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #859
    Agreed.. I think Yoda said it best:

    "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. And hate leads to suffering."

    Radical Islam in a nutshell!
     
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    #860
    I'm amazed this hopeless thread is still running. :confused:

    I think Mia is trying to break the most replied to topic in P&R.

    You gonna have to keep whoring it up for a long time though babe you ain't even caught up with my Saddam Hussain is hanged thread with a whopping 967 replies, and guerillas excellent Ron Paul updates thread with 1,052 replies.

    gworld holds the record with 4,276 replies so the crazy gang really have got their work cut out! :D
     
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