Will islam take over the world?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nora, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #21
    Ah, these Islamophobes like to crop out of nowhere. Are you addressing me, sir? If you are, I don't think you know who I am, nor do you have the right to say that I like women "who are 100% submissive". On the contrary, my fiancee-to-be is a rather outspoken person but I am proud of her, regardless.

    Yeah, maybe thats the reason why Paul of Tarsus wrote the following:

    "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered." (1 Corinthians 11:5-6)

    Ring any bells, Islamophobe? Submissive women is not in Islam, but its in your Holey Babble!

    See how this half-naked man worshipper lies? No such verse exists in the Qur'an, so he has to make up stories like these to deceive others. This is of course, again, what Paul of Tarsus had taught, which is as follows:

    "For if the truth of God, hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory: why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" (Romans 3:7)

    Yes, be a deceiver and thus you are a true Xtian!

    Why does someone "of substance" has to be proven after a search on Google?? Your reasoning is flawed. In any case, one is free to see the video and judge for themselves, instead of listening to the one-sided story of the pseudo-monotheist, KalvinB.
     
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  2. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #22
    She's a nobody. You're acting like she's a somebody. Plenty of women convert to Islam just like many women fall in love with abusive men. Her conversion means nothing. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Muslims are not supposed to wear makeup. Especially not makeup that's caked on. Or does that count as her covering her face?

    If you'd read further Paul states that lying is not acceptible. He was presenting an argument for lying and then countering it. He does that quite a bit in his writings. They are a debate style. You should try researching a bit, this is clearly explained in many places around the net.

    Paul is talking about covering her head as her hair covers her head. Not a full body suit. Did you also notice what an uncovered woman dishonors? Her head. Not God. Not her family. Not her husband, her head. Compare that to Islam which murders women for dishonoring everyone and everything a Muslim can come up with when she dares to not wear her body bag.

    Also notice it talks about shaved heads. Not naturally balding hair, cancer caused baldness or thin hair or short hair. But an intentionally shaved head Britney Spears style. So what does that have to do with oppressing women.

    Yeah, there's nothing more oppressive than telling a woman she is more beautiful when she has hair and that she should wear a hat when she worships God. Notice it's not talking about every day things. Only when she is worshipping. Compare to Islam which requires a full body suit just to not be murdered.

    So despite her being outspoken, which you don't like, you're still proud of her.

    Here, let me phrase that for you in a non-sexist way

    Maybe after a few years of Koran sanctioned abuse, you'll get rid of that trait you find unagreeable in her. You also call her your future fiancee. You must be a prophet. Or have you popped the question "will you say 'yes' if I ask you to marry me?" and she said 'yes?' Otherwise you're implying that she's required to be your finacee in some way which is highly oppressive.

    This is why people are rightfully afraid of Muslims. They will do whatever their religion tells them to do, even murder, rather than accept their religion is false and leave it.

    Let me rephrase that for you in a non-future-islamic-terrorist way

    It facinates me how Muslims think. And then they wonder why people don't like them. When two teenage girls were murdered by their Muslim father because they didn't want to subject themselves to Islamic oppression a Muslim leader (in America no less) claimed it was not an Islam problem but a "teenage" problem.

    I guess his backwards little mind couldn't say it was a "psycho dad" problem. That I could believe. Plenty of parents go nuts and kill their kids. But since he blamed the victims, it's obviously an Islam problem. You could ask any one but a Muslim to find the source of the issue outside of Islam and they would say "the dad was nuts." Only a Muslim would claim the teenagers were the problem.

    A society that oppresses women does so because the males of that society of sexually insecure. People who send out death threats anonymously through the internet are just angry because they're afraid their penis will turn into a vagina and they need to do something drastic to prove they are a man.

    For example in this very thread we have someone claiming to have a "future" fiancee. He probably has a three way every day talking to two women at the same time. He claims to like women but can't even praise her for an admirable trait: outspokeness.

    In the Bible we find in the OT (land of oppressed women so we're told) in Proverbs the story of the virtuous wife who runs her own business while her husband sits on his butt singing her praises.

    Quite a contrast.
     
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  3. Plazimot

    Plazimot Peon

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    #23
    Simply - No

    Islam can use democracy to spread around but when it comes to critical level western world will,in my opinion, use any measure to defend them self

    p.s. they can't even defeat small israel , and thats what's really wired :)
     
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  4. Zibblu

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    #24
    Islam will take over the world a lot like communism took over the world in the 1950s and 60s.
     
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    #25
    india also had depression in economy yesterday, bse fell by 2000 pts
     
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  6. PHPGator

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    #26
    It will never happen. Sadly, there will be many people who fall into it though i'm sure.
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #27
    Except that:
    1. The Soviets lost in Afghanistan
    2. The Americans and Afghani's are currently winning in Afghanistan
    3. The American and Iraqi's are currently winning in Iraq
    The men and women of the United States Armed Forces aren't stupid. If we let them win, they will win.

    Totalitarian regimes are occasionally able to take power in a nation, but that's not been the norm since the invention and proliferation of effective small arms.
     
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  8. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #28
    The US is winning against the totalitarian regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq because the regimes are morally corrupt and God is with America.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #29
    I prefer to credit our superior use of manpower (and womanpower) and our boundless adaptability for our success. :)
     
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  10. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #30
    IMHO Yes and No, you win the war but you lose the peace. Afghanistan maybe forced due to the 911 incident, but Iraq is a beehive, you poke the bee hive and killed some of the bees and you are sting as well. The bees are still flying around waiting to sting others. The beehive should be left alone in the first place.

     
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  11. danger9918

    danger9918 Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Just thought i'd share this quote from the koran

    " la ekrah fel deen kad tbayan elghay men elroshd "

    It means that religion of islam should never be forced on anyone
     
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    #32
    Humans today need to save earth before anything....:mad:
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #33
    it also says;
    Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book , until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

    And;

    If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them

    Like i have always said about all religions. You can find whatever you are looking for. If you are looking for quotes that show the religion as peaceful, it's in there. But if you want to find justification for killing unbelievers, You can find that too.
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #34
    If you do that, you're a pretty lousy handyman.

    Luckily, the brave men and women of the United States Armed Forces are more dedicated and more competent than that. They went into Europe and cleaned up the Nazi's, without leaving a lot of them flying around waiting to sting others. This latest group of authoritarian dickheads will receive the same treatment.
     
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  15. smatts9

    smatts9 Active Member

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    #35
    No way U.S. become Islamic. We will be burned to salt like Sodom and Gomorrah for our debauchery before Islam ever takes over.
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

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    #36
    When the Islamists finally have suitcase nukes staged in ever major U.S. city, it will be difficult not to pay jizyah and agree to live under Sharia law. Heck, the Democrats would almost agree to that right now -- while we're winning.

    At the current time, technology is on our side. During this century, technology will shift more to the side of the Islamists. We're doing exceptionally well because of NVD's, GPS, and excellent comm gear. They're doing well because of IED's. When they finally crack the code on effective WMD, the balance of power will shift away from modern civilization.
     
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    #37
    I find bombs exploding to be more peaceful than being oppressed. I'd sleep more soundly knowing that a bomb just blew up my oppressor than if I knew my oppressor was still out there watching me.

    Muslims around the world couldn't give two shits if you converted. They're not trying to convert anyone. They just want to force their laws on the western world. If you don't convert and want to live as a second class citizen they don't care.

    They don't want conversion. They want submission.

    So that statement is completely off topic and irrelavent to what is going on in the Muslim world.
     
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    #38
    Religions are meant for good things to people. No matter Islam, Zeus, Christian..
    Arabs might be rich but they are still way behind forming a viable political atmosphere within their own territory. USA and many other countries made sure monarchy stays there; making sure oil supply is easily controlled. It will take a lot for Arabs to come out of this. Only after that they could think of religious invasion.
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #39
    It's the USA's fault that almost the entire OIC is politically backwards? Oil rich countries and poor countries alike?

    That's a great example of why those countries are so backwards -- a stubborn refusal to accept responsibility.
     
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  20. webcosmo

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    #40
    I wouldn't take it too hard. First the Arab people have to come forward establish their rights of democracy. The fact is Arab people have money and they are rich; result is they don't care much who is ruling them.
     
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