Please rate my web page"" on a scale of 1 thru 10

Discussion in 'Websites' started by Aaron111, Feb 11, 2008.

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    Hi im looking for honest opinions about my new layout and web design for my site please click http://velvetto.com/coffee/ also compare it to this site Bestpricedcoffee.com wich looks better??? this is an extension please be firm not to harsh;)
     
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  2. Stomme poes

    Stomme poes Peon

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    The code is still icky, but the design is MUCH better-- easier to read and cleaner-looking. I'd make the menu do something on :hover like text-decoration:underline or maybe a colour change.

    Re your old design: it could've worked if it had been more readable. Next time, when you tile a textured image like the coffee beans, make them wrap smooth-- meaning, make it so that you can't see where one image starts and the other begins.

    Now, looking at your new one as someone who might be a customer, I cannot find a big button that says BUY OUR COFFEE HERE. meaning, somewhere on your menu, there should be a link that goes directly to like a product list or something, with prices etc, where people can click to buy. This doesn't look like a shop's website; it looks like a website where you can buy online. So, don't make it hard for people to buy the stuff!

    I especially like your new header. It's pretty. I'd add something darker brown near the bottom just to tie everything together-- you have the coffee beans but maybe a little gradient from the darker cream to brown or something.

    If you want, you can also try this template I never really finished: http://stommepoes.nl/Tests/koffie.html The text is currently too far from the right as there was an image there earlier, and really, could be made into two columns. It's very simple, nothing exciting, but basic. Feel free to copy it and play with it, so long as the photographers keep their names in.

    *edit I know English isn't your strong point, but whenever you decide on your design, have someone look over the text and make corrections. It's hard to sell something when the grammar etc doesn't look good. : )
     
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  3. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    hey thanks for the reply I had this done for me from the UK im not to sure about off sure design but I spoke to him already" he's nice" "" the first sight I built but im new to design???

    " is your templet free???? or what do I need to do to get it??? and I like the design it has H1 tags and awesome ""'
     
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  4. Stomme poes

    Stomme poes Peon

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    Yeah, it's free. When you look at it, in your browser look for "View Source" or "Page Source" or something like that-- then you can see (and copy into Notepad or something) the code.

    I made that header like that so people can type what they want without having to open an image editor. Thanks to soulscratch for giving me a better way to do it than I had earlier.

    If that guy in the UK wrote the code.... ew, find someone else. It doesn't even line up on the bottom (at least, not in FireFox).
     
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  5. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on the code issue " it is out of sink no h1 tru 6 tags in it at all"""
     
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    *5

    Takes a while to load with some many images, also if you had made the left column where that menu is, with a darker color, it really would make the graphics look better.
     
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    your website is look better than Bestpricedcoffee.com.

    your site : 10 pt
    Bestpricedcoffee.com : 6 pt

    ps : 2 sites compare only.
    I think Cyrus_vtn give you a good comment.
     
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  8. digitaldesigns

    digitaldesigns Banned

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    3. Not to be mean, but it's pretty ugly. And if you are looking for a business site the last thing you want is too many colors, to be ugly, and the site to load that slow.
     
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  9. soulscratch

    soulscratch Well-Known Member

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    Code: .5/10
    Design: 3/10

    I suggest you brush up your front end skills by reading many of the tutorials out there..
    http://www.htmldog.com/
    ^ Decent place to start.
     
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    Whoa.. your new design is better... sorry but that doesn't mean its any good either. Your banner has to be redesigned, change the Gano Excel font, your logo is too.. umm.. imposing. The color combi is okay, but your body text font has to change... too cluttered. And your menu HAS to go... too tacky. I'm givin it a - 2. Sorry, but you did ask for honest opinions :)
     
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  11. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    PAINFUL to watch load - at 555k in 49 files - that's why. The layout LOOKS broken - at first I thought it was my 'large fonts' setting, but then I noticed that it doesn't work in Firefux (which ignores the system metric) either.

    No doctype means you cannot validate the code, much less expect it to work cross-browser since you're designer would have to be hacking around quirks mode. The images are all sliced into separate sections for no fathomable reason, it doesn't degrade well images off or make any use of 'semantic' markup meaning search engines are likely to blow past the page like it didn't exist...

    Basically as noted by others, the site would be the bleeding edge of 1997 coding practices... Unfortunately this is NOT 1997 and we can do a LOT better.

    4/10 for the appearance. It would actually be a 8/10 if not for that menu looking broken.

    1/10 for the load time - it's fat bloated garbage.

    0.5/10 for the code. This is 2008, not 1997.
     
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  12. digitaldesigns

    digitaldesigns Banned

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    #12
    I've seen a couple threads in the Website Design section and you seem to be a little to fascinated with the H1-6 tags. Step one is getting a nice, professional layout. Who cares about the tags. Get the layout, have good content, then go from there. Things can always be added and taken off as the site goes. I would go with a more clean layout, more whites, and much smaller banners and text size. Start from scratch, and don't give up... Web design can be a lot of fun.

    If you do need a web designer then let me know. I'd be glad to help.
     
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    Agree with some of the other posters here, the site looks dated like it was 97. If you want to see good designs check out csselite.com and some other css sites.
     
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    7/10 for the design
     
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    WRONG, COMPLETELY BACK-ASSWARD

    Why? Because a nice professional layout has nice professional CLEAN SEMANTIC MARKUP under the hood. I swear, this designing the appearance before marking up the content is putting the cart before the horse.

    You start out with the CONTENT, using clean semantic VALID markup with ZERO regard to how the layout is going to look. Then and ONLY then do you use CSS to turn that markup (with as few changes as possible - an extra DIV or span here or there is fine) into a layout, then and ONLY THEN do you fire up your paint program to hang graphics on it.

    The result? Clean minimalist code that will have better accessability than any 'design first' rubbish, better search engine results than using an entire DVD's worth of bullshit search engine abuse SEO BULLSHIT, be easier to maintain, easy to reskin with just the CSS leaving the markup alone, and best of all, use less bandwidth and make better use of caching models.

    "Who cares about the tags?" - that has to be the DUMBEST THING I've ever heard in a web design forum... and I've heard some real doozies lately.

    But then it seems a lot of designers seem to have it in their head to design some crap template, then shoe-horn the content into it and pray to god it works. Rubbish I tell you, complete and total. If it was a car, Jeremy Clarkson would call it a "beetle".

    CONTENT FIRST - Why? Because that's what the visitor is coming to your site FOR, NOT some goof assed graphical layout that has accessability headaches, cross browser issues and a whole host of other garbage just because some art *** got it in their head to start out in photoshop.
     
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    o think is nice ,nice work:rolleyes:
     
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  17. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    I'm flabbergasted by all the negative post here I thought it got better however that's the call thanks all""
     
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    Site is much improved Aaron but it does load really slow. As you said it does need some Tags done but overall the site isn't as bad as some of these users are putting off. It does need work because it does look a bit out dated, but it is a good start. Congrads on the coffee layout.
     
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    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Im in the making here at dp thanks again for the replies"
     
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    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Im addind better colors to this site please rate it tomorrow"
     
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