American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Dec 21, 2007.

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  1. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #821
    You guys are cracking me up! Now that you mention it, unicorns are very provocative...:)
     
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    SecureWebDev Active Member

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    #822
    see thats what makes people stereotype us americans, ignorants like you. people who go around disrespecting others religions, cultures, and ideas. you make me sick.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #823
    You need to educate yourself on what's really going on in places like Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran and Afganistan.

    Hamas is tring to do the same thing in Gaza.
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #824
    Those darn Jews ... sucking up all that land.. How dare they. :rolleyes:
     
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    #825
    Hess-von Kruedener, known as Wolf to his friends and colleagues, was an eager soldier with many friends, said Capt. Bernard Dionne, a public affairs officer at Canadian Forces Base Kingston.

    In recent years, Hess-von Kruedener taught soldiers the skills needed to be a UN military observer at the Peace Support Training Centre in Kingston.

    Hess-von Kruedener also has two children.

    The soldier and three other observers from Austria, China and Finland had taken cover in a bomb shelter under a building marked as a UN post when they were attacked. They had contacted the Israeli government TEN times informing them that the attacks were getting closer to their post, and informing them that there are UN soldiers and peacekeppers in the building.

    Ignoring the calls from these UN workers, the building was targeted with precision guided missiles, and all 4 UN workers were killed.

    UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has suggested that Israel deliberately targeted the UN post.

    Israel's UN ambassador, Dan Gillerman, said Israel would not allow the UN to be involved in any investigation of why the post was struck. (I wonder why).

    Also, remember that the great state of Israel used ILLEGAL weapons (cluster mines) in the Lebanon war of 2006. Also, Israel targeted and attacked schools and hospitals from air attacks during that war. Killing children and the sick? What an honourable nation!

    Also remember that Israel killed 10 times more civillians during that war than the "terrorists"

    Also, regarding the comment by Will.Spencer, "...demand Spain be handed back over to them" - remember that Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived together in harmony in Spain for 500 years under islamic rule until the Crusaides when muslims were eradicated from spain.
     
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    #826

    Does someone have a problem with homosexuality?

    Your statement is way over their heads and bogarts response is sound evidence.
     
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  7. SecureWebDev

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    #827
    ive been to the middle east. i know how its like over there and what america does only provokes their feelings even more. They are not terrorrists and Islam is not a religion of terrorrism, killing and war.
    educate yourself first then come speak to me. I have talked with real middle easterns the good, the bad, and the ugly... Now you do the same then form a reasonable statement.
     
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  8. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #828
    I hope there is bliss in your ignorance. Lucky for all of us America's security is not guided by people who think like you.
     
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    letsjoy Well-Known Member

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    #829
    Wow man you exposed the truth :eek:

    Can't you see daily attacks by Israel on poor Palestinians...

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    these people are not terrorist these are freedom fighters...they want their home lands back...which human will not react ?
     
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    #830
    yea thanks god or else the gass prices wouldnt be high! what a relief! the more we suffer the happier people like you are...
     
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    #831
    The person that needs to educate themselves about the facts is you.

    The Jews in Israel have been facing a hundred years of Palestinian terrorism.

    The vionce against the Jews has continued from the 1921, 1929 and 1936-1939 riots led by El Mufti to the war against the Jews led by the Nazi El Mufti starting in 1946. El Muft's nephew Arafat then devoted his life to terrorizing the Jews leading the PLO.

    Look at the situation in Gaza. Israel withdrew 100% from Gaza and the Jews have been answered with a wave of terrorism.

    It is not possible to make peace with terrorists.
     
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    #832
    ok lets start over.
    the conqueror is Isreal and the conquered are the Palestinians.
    conquering is like stealing other peoples land... so if someone came into my house and told me it was his great grandfather's who had promised it for him and moved out i wouldnt accept it. Then if he removed me by force i would fight back. I really think you should relook the situation and see which side does the real terrorizing killing women, kids, and innocent people.
     
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    #833
    and i want you not to take offence in anything i say since we are just debating.
     
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    #834
    Only someone close minded would come to that conclusion.
     
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    #835
    As President Thomas Jefferson put it: "Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute."

    Thousands of Israelis have been killed by Palestinian terrorists since the 1993 Oslo Peace accords.

    According to B'Tselem, as of July 10, 2005, 821 Israeli civilians have been killed in acts of terror carried out by Palestinians since the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993

    During the Second Intifada alone 1,137 Israelis were killed by Palestinian terrorists, according to Israel Ministry of Foreign Affair (counted since September 29, 2000, retrieved at December 26, 2007

    Palestinian political violence is financed and sponsored by Islamist groups and others around the world. Saddam Hussein notoriously donated $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers, and $10,000 to the families of Palestinians killed during clashes between the Israeli military.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_political_violence
     
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    #836
    It is possible to make peace with terrorists; the brits have had enough experience.
     
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    #837
    Mmm
    Politics is a strange thing
    Even Saddam was a politician
    Perphaps by doing the donations he was strenghthening ties with other nations. It was a very public gesture.
     
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    #838
    Hearts and minds.
    Bullets make martyrs
     
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    #839
    Bogart is selective copying & pasting the only way you know how to debate?

    Your slanted information is missing:

    Hold that thought and lets not mention U.S. funding towards political violence in certain countries.

    There is no denying that, unless of course one is close minded or lacks knowledge of history.
     
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    #840
    yea some people like to tell only one side of the story...
     
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