Anyones Rankings Just Sunk?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by sweetfunny, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Valley

    Valley Peon

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    #81
    WHat a cracking idea.
    I have a site which dropped before Xmas. Not sure if same thing but it passes, juice, serp juice the lot.
    But it is still buggered 90 days later, despite dropping inbound TLA etc, and trying to alter link profile with small zero PR links from different cp.
    I have had to buy/ build new sites which I had in a glass case marked "incase of algo change, smash glass, prey, and kiss G ass"
     
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  2. SEOguy101

    SEOguy101 Active Member

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    #82
    Ya on the Dell page my site shows up #3 for bunk beds. However, on the current Google US datacenter it shows #82 :confused:. Prior to January 15th, it was #4 in Google US and on all data centers, but than dropped to #90 or so. However, knowing that it ranks #4 on all other Google DC's and decent in Google Canada, UK, and India gives me a bit of confidence that it will come back.
     
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  3. slabbernock

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    #83
    I noticed your site started this day:
    08-Aug-07

    My site is under 2 years old...
    Anyone else that is seeing their sites go from good ranking (1st page Google) to way down several pages deep on Google have sites that are a little on the newer side?
    I have noticed that not all New Sites mind you are affected. I have noticed a competition site that has not been touched... But just wondering if this is affecting mostly newer sites.
     
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  4. sunnyverma1984

    sunnyverma1984 Well-Known Member

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    #84
    same problem with my site. This is a sandbox effect you have to wait about 4 to 9 month to get back.
     
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  5. phantom

    phantom Well-Known Member

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    #85
    302 redirection hack ?
     
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  6. gtull1

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    #86
    what's that? please explain 302
     
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  7. phantom

    phantom Well-Known Member

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  8. slabbernock

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    #88
    No I don't think it is a 302 Hack for these sites but thanks for the suggestion. :)
     
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  9. phantom

    phantom Well-Known Member

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    #89
    Just out of curiosity...why do you think that?
     
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  10. slabbernock

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  11. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #91
    For my site it's not, i've got Google Alerts configured which lets me know if my pages have been scraped along with a couple of other tricks to combat 302's aka proxy hacks.

    With the different Google powered searches, my site has basically vanished from the lot. My only traffic is coming from Yahoo/MSN, sites linking to me and the occasional obscure query where they went dozens of pages in to the SERPs.
     
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  12. asbestos

    asbestos Active Member

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    #92
    Some filter probably. Or somebody stole your content and You are in suplemental.
     
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  13. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #93
    The only thing wrong there is Supplemental's are not a result of Duplicate Content, the two have virtually no connection.

    Also my site has a ton of really solid PR7/8 links, along with PR5/4 deep pages plus Google crawls it for hours at a time every day.. Actually several GB's per month just from Google Bot.

    These are definitely not an indicator of supplemental pages or a weak website.
     
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  14. gtull1

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    #94


    I thought supplementals were where google dumps duplicate content.

    The proxy hack articles were interesting reads. Anyone knows if google has plugged that hole yet?
     
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    #95
    There's defintely something going on and I'm glad I've found this thread. I'm in sweetfunny's boat. I've optimized a lot of websites for the past few years and I've never encounted this type of problem.

    If I look some of my websites for a particular keyword on different datacenters, they rank in the top 10 but on google based in the states, the website is no where to be found. The only thing I can think of is that it's some sort of algo change that related to relatively new sites (6 month-ish old, which a couple of my sites are)
     
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    #96
    :D Please use this tool to find your ranking through Google DC's

    Or you may search via Google search on Dell and you will see different results even you are using USA based IP compared to Google.com USA results.
     
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    #97
    Yeah, it seems only results on Google.com USA got effected. It still good that other site which using Google.com as their search services aren't effected by this and show results according to Google DC's directly. That show a good signs I think.
     
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  18. kgrad

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    #98
    Hmm.. I get scared reading these things..
    You work day and night on something, give it all you got, build a quality site, do nothing wrong.... and one day, you are no where... all work lost! shit!
     
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  19. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #99
    Nope, that's a myth that keeps getting sprouted daily and i don't know why. Pages in Supplemental are a result of Pagerank or rather a lack of. From Matt Cutts:

    Source: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/infrastructure-status-january-2007/

    The "only" connection between a duplicate page and supplemental page is a duplicate page is less likely to be linked to because it's not original. If you get a duplicate page and apply links to it there's no reason it will not appear in the main index, you can even outrank the original.

    So true, if any other company negatively effected my revenue and livelihood in this manner i'd be in court with my solicitor right now seeking damages.. However Google can do it and not be accountable to anyone or anything.

    It makes you want to do one of two things, give up on the whole business or scrape, cloak and spam their index like there's no tomorrow because legitimate sites seem to have the same chance of being knocked on the head as black hat sites.

    Only difference is i can make black hat sites in my sleep running automated scripts instead of busting my backside 12 hours a day 7 days a week like i did with my legitimate one. :cool:
     
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  20. Valley

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    #100
    OH SHIT!
    Is it this simple?
    The website that has been affected for me is the one I use for throwing out links to get some of my niche sites indexed or juiced.
    Is G simply assuming these are paid links that I am selling?
     
    Valley, Feb 9, 2008 IP