American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

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  1. moe374

    moe374 Active Member

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    #801
    So why is Israel in the UN then? tell them to get out if they dont want to abide by the its resolutions. The funny thing is that if Iran or Palestine were to not abide by any resolutions, the US would get involved and set up sanctions against the country and cause a global outrage.

    Israeal has also clearly defied some of the geneva conventions.

    But according to israeli supporters, its all okay.

    Oh yeah, and why is that documentary a mocumentary? because you dont like it? The director was an award winning director. Have you even seen the documentary? or are you ignorant? The fact is that it was another case of Israel killing an innocent civillian. Regardless of the fact that it was a documentary or mocumentary. stick to the point.

    This is my last post here. I have presented MANY incidents and facts regarding Israel as being a state with no regard for any life except the lives of their own, not palestinians, not americans, not british, not UN workers, no regard for humanity in general. Animals if you ask me. Even after presenting all these facts, i get back ignorant responses like "Oh, they're surrounded by arab countries so that justifies their actions and attacks on palestine and making life for the palestinians a living hell" and other ignorant responses like "UN resolutions are worthless" and even more stupid responses like "israel gave them land" - that is palestines land in the first place, if you take $100 dollars from someone and then give them back 7 dollars, that doesnt make you a saint, it makes you a theif.

    Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world, they are fighting countries like palestine who have nothing but rocks to throw. Palestenian children throw rocks at Israeli tanks when they drive by THEIR homes IN PALESTINE (what the hell are they doing in palestine? I though they gave them the land? why are they still there? ) and the Israeli retaliate by shooting at the kids who were throwing stones at their tanks. No wonder they blow themselves up, they have no alternative.

    You guys took every single fact i presented, such as the numerous killings of innocents by Isreal, many UN resolutions condeming Israel, and more, and justified them or ignored them. So theres no point trying to talk sense into 1 or 2 people who clearly cannot debate the facts presented. But thats how it always is when trying to debate pro-israelis, they NEVER stick to the facts.

    Maybe if you understood the history, and realized Israeli actions that have been condemed by the UN and defied the Geneva conventions, are the ROOT CAUSE for what happens today, events such as the formation for militant groups and suicide bombings. What do you expect? for the palestinians to just sit there and take all the SH** that the israelis throw at them? if you think that, then you are a moron.

    Remember, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. And to the palestinians, Hammas are their freedom fighters fighting the israeli terrorists. (remember those democratic elections that were forced upon palestine by the US and Israel, well Hammas won those elections, and then the US and Israel said "we do recognize Hammas as the political leaders". Well the people voted them in, thats what the US and Israel wanted isn't it? democracy? what happened then? oh yeah.. it didn't go as the US and Israel had hoped..... what hypocracy).

    Finally, I must repeat what i said in a previous post, there are JEWS living IN ISRAEL who protest against their government.I do not have anything against jews. I am strongly against the israeli governement / terrorist organization.

    Israel is making a HUGE deal about one captured soldier, heck I even see him come up on the evening news every once in a while when its his birthday or some other not so important event. What about the hundreds or thousands of prisoners being held in Israeli dungeons? Some have been held for over 30 years! The UN has not even been allowed in to inspect their conditions (which is AGAINST international law). But international laws dont apply to israel, right Mia and Bogart?
     
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  2. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #802
    Look at the map. Arabs have enough land.
     
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    #803
    Moe would only be happy if Jews didn't shoot back.
     
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  4. bogart

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    #804
    The Jews were living in Peace until El mufti tried to exterminate them in the 1920-21 Arab Riots, Palestine Riots and Massacres of 1929 and The Arab Revolt 1936 - 1939 (415 Jews were killed by the terrorists in the 1936-1939 Arab Revolt).

    "At first El Mufti's policy was to fight or massacre the Zionists, which he most notably achieved in the riots of 1920 and 1929 and later the 1936-1939 rebellion. However, when he realised that the Jews kept on flocking into the country, he thought the best way to deal with the Jewish problem was to dry up the source in Europe. With that purpose in mind he approached the newly established Nazi regime in Germany, which had as early as 1932 established Nazi party cells among the Palestinian Germans. "

    Source: Muftism and Nazism
    http://notendur.centrum.is/~snorrigb/mufti1.htm
     
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    #805
    zionists will never want peace, because they have a stronger military & nuclear weapons, and a super-power ready to defend their illegal activities in UN.

    I guess Iran should actively pursue Nukes as well. That would be the right thing to do. If these nazis want to fight, we'll give them hell.

    America is controlled by special interest groups like AIPAC and Military-industrial complex. Until this grip is weakened, we would never see justice :(
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #806
    Man, you guys kill me with this stuff.

    Thanks for the honest look at this Ron Paul supporter [Iran supporter, American hater]. I love that 'we'll give them hell' part.

    Thank God my country will be on the side of Israel - what side [Iran] are you on again?
     
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    joshuaadams Well-Known Member

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    #807
    Take a break guys... ^_^
     
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  8. bogart

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    #808
    You are a funny guy :D

    Did you read all that in your book?
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #809
    Is a very interesting insight indeed.

    So it would be fair to say that we or we'll is indeed 'muslims', & that you believe America should be targeted by muslims. So what we (muslim’s) propose is; we must get nukes & give them (America) hell?

    Would it also be fair to say that you are living in a country (America) that you perceive is at war with you religion & youself?

    Have you thought about joing a jihadist group at all?
     
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    Will called that one :D
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Just mention that there Fox News or something more "grown up" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: like that... It is way so much more affective:rolleyes:
     
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  12. moe374

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  13. bogart

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    Israel has a right to defend itself. The blame is on Syria, Hezbollah and Iran.

    Syria and Iranian backed Hezbollah are responsible for the terrorism in Lebanon and in fact Hezbollah is an illegal militia that has been ordered to disban by the United Nations. To make matters worse, Syria and Hezbollah are killing MPs of the lebanese government to halt the democratic process.

    Jumblatt says that the pattern of killings is part of a project by Syria and its proxies in Lebanon to reduce the number of March 14 Forces parliament members to 64 – which would lead to the loss of their majority in the 128-member parliament

    Source Al Jazeera
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E81C89C4-EB19-4D6E-AC61-635BB88A3D05.htm
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    It's silliness. Islam is a violently expansionist religion. As soon as they have wiped out the Jews, they will demand Spain be handed back over to them. Then, once they gain that they will pick a new target.
     
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    Once they run out of oil and water they are going to get really hungry and need to expand to the Balkans, Crimiea, Romania, Russia, India, and China.
     
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    #816
    you two sound so ignorant...
    im american but i never thought 'Hey america has enough land! Hawaii should be some other peoples land' its just plain stupid. You have what you got dont be greedy and go take other peoples things
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    After that they will want some hip clothes to wear and will probably expand to New York City!:)
     
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    But only for the boys. The girls will still have to wear black bedsheets. :rolleyes:

    Just one more piece of evidence that Islam causes homosexuality.
     
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    At least give them bedsheets with happy prints. Like little puppies or unicorns. The black is so scary!:)
     
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    Bedsheets with happy prints like little puppies or unicorns is an invitation for rape. Well not really, but hope you get my point.
     
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