American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Dec 21, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

    Messages:
    14,789
    Likes Received:
    1,040
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    375
    #781
    Have you been fitted for your bomb vest yet? :rolleyes:
     
    Will.Spencer, Feb 5, 2008 IP
  2. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    64
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #782
    :rolleyes:
    Only people blinded by hate can call the crap bogart posted facts. I've asked him question and gave him chance to back up his "facts" but he avoided to do that. Yeah, nice "facts" lol
    No wonder you even believe in crap like this one:
    http://www.adl.org/Internet_Rumors/prescott.htm
    So, someone posted on internet several sentences saying he didn't do it a that's... what?A fact? :D
    Well, if you consider bogarts crap facts your crap is a fact too! :D

    Many of who are consider "Americans" today are economic immigrants from Ireland,Germany,France,Italy and the rest of Europe from 1922-1931. Aren't you one of those "Americans"? ;)
     
    iggysick, Feb 5, 2008 IP
  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

    Messages:
    14,789
    Likes Received:
    1,040
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    375
    #783
    You must not be familiar with the ADL, but I get the feeling that they are familiar with you. :rolleyes:

    I'm sorry. It appears that you only accept "facts" from your friends Osama bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmenijad. :rolleyes:

    When you reject all facts and, in effect, reality itself, discussion with you becomes pointless.
     
    Will.Spencer, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  4. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    64
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #784
    When you and "people" who thinks like you presents "facts" I can only laugh. :rolleyes:
    Sad little bigot.
     
    iggysick, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    509
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    235
    #785
    The extremists are trying to rewrite history using "Goebbels Lies".

    I guess if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad keeps on repeating the "Holocaust is a myth" then even he will believe the lie.
     
    bogart, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  6. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    64
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #786
    And that's exactly what you are doing here by posting crap propaganda. Goebbels would be proud of you.
     
    iggysick, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  7. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    509
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    235
    #787
    Here's another Muslim/Nazi connection. Goebbels anti-Semitic propagandist Johann von Leers, alias Omar Amin converted to Islam and was a close friend of El Mufti Muhammad Amin Al-Husayni. The West German government tried in vain to have von Leers extradited for war crimes but he was protected by the Nasser regime and Arab League.

    Johann von Leers wrote the notorious anti-Semitic tract (published and popular during the Third Reich), "Juden Sehen Dich An" (Jews are Observing You).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_Leers
     
    bogart, Feb 6, 2008 IP
    Mia likes this.
  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #788

    I'm not sure I understand the logic here... Are you sure this RP thing has not affected your judgment? It's the other way around.. I'm assuming this is a typo?
     
    Mia, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  9. moe374

    moe374 Active Member

    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    #789
    bogart - if you're using the fact that the hexbollah atack justifies the killing of innocent civillians and UN workers in Lebanon, then by that logic, the a palestinian boy blowing himself up in israel is justified by the fact that gis family and home was attacked, killed, and destroyed by the isralis (which it DOESNT)

    will.spencer - so you are saying that those "accidental" deaths, the thousands of them, are the fault of the "islamists"? What about when Israeli bulldozers ran over 3 peacekeeps, 1 american and 2 british, after the israelis had asked them to move out of the way? (they refused, the israelis ran them over, so they could get to the homes that the peacekeeprs were trying to protect, so that the homes could be destroyed). was that an "accident" as well?

    what about when the israelis destroyed thousands of palestinian homes to make way for israeli settlements, and if the families living in those homes refused to leave, the home would be demolished with the families wtill inside. were all those deaths "accidents" as well?

    We all know how "hard" life is in Israel, but what about in palestine? have a look and see what the Israelis are REALLY doing in Palestine. Fighting millitants?? I think not.
    look at these:
    http://www.geocities.com/ibha_99/palestine1.jpg
    http://www.geocities.com/ibha_99/palestine2.jpg


    There are MANY mre pics like these.

    Mia - you don't understand the logic? he said that killing innocent people is terrorism. Do you agree? Well if you do agree to that, then, he said that Israel is a MUCH bigger terrorist state than palestine since ISRAEL kills MUHC MUCH more innocent people than palestine does. We're talking about REAL numbers here, not just incidents that get reported by the western media.
     
    moe374, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  10. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

    Messages:
    7,298
    Likes Received:
    416
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #790
    debunked, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  11. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    509
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    235
    #791
    A few months back some women suicide bombers blew up some hotels in Jordan.
     
    bogart, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  12. moe374

    moe374 Active Member

    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    #792
    palestinians are dying every single day due to attacks by israel and poor living conditions.

    A few years ago, a few film makers went into palestine to film the lives of the children in palestine, they were going to do a double feature, exposing and contrasting the lives of palestinian children vs the lives of israeli children. Unfortunately, they never got to make the israeli side becuase the director was killed by the israelis while filming in palestine. Yet another of many incidents of israelis killing innocent civillians, followed by expressing "deep regret".
     
    moe374, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #793
    Source?

    The truth is, they are given money by the US and are given land by Israel. They let a terrorist group take that money and use it to strap bombs to women, children, and other innocents, spend the money on those bombs, all the while turning the land given to them recently from a paradise into a shit hole.

    Sad...
     
    Mia, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  14. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    509
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    235
    #794
    Some more whining?

    Even though the Palestians were granted over 85% of the Palestinian Mandate, the Nazi El Mufti al-Husseini lead the Palestinians into a war to exterminate the Jews.

    76% of the Palestinian Mandate of Trans-Jordan was partitioned in 1946 and renamed Jordan (an independent Palestine-Arab state east of the Jordan River.)

    On November 29, 1947 the UN partioned western Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. Over 75% of the land allocated to the Jews was desert.


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    bogart, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #795
    One of my favorite maps for the terrorist supporting propaganda artists that flock to DP for some reason:

    [​IMG]

    Pay particular attention to the large expanse of Green areas. They are all Islamic.

    Where's Waldo? I mean Israel.. Can you find it? I'll give you a hint... Them there Jews are RED...
     
    Mia, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  16. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

    Messages:
    2,430
    Likes Received:
    135
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    230
    #796
    DO you open your mouth only to lie, or do you have anything substantial to provide?

    Personally, I wouldn't give a damn to a piece of land, but people are being killed and tortured systematically there.. zionists keep lying all the time, claiming Jordan is Palestine, which is completely untrue.
     
    gauharjk, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  17. moe374

    moe374 Active Member

    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    #797
    SOURCE:
    Death IN Gaza
    Director:James Miller
    Writer:Saira Shah (writer)
    Genre:Documentary more
    Plot Outline:The harrowing documentary that portrays the horror of the Israeli conflict and the resulting death of its director, James Miller.

    You're showing a map of israel compared to more than 20 other countries. are you serious? we're talking about israel and palestine here. If you're going to post on a serious topic such as this, at least bring valid arguments.

    Secondly, the maps of israel that you present are not current, they are as of 1947, like you said. That is what Palestine is supposed to look like. In reality, the Palestinian territory is significantly smaller, and heavily influenced by israeli checkpoints and such.

    there are so many UN RESOLUTIONS that have been passed regarding Israel, have a look. Its remarkable.

    Resolution 799: ". . . strongly condemns Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

    Resolution 726: " ... strongly condemns Israel's deportation of Palestinians.

    Resolution 694: " ... deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.

    Resolution 681: " ... deplores Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.

    Resolution 673: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.

    Resolution 672: " ... condemns Israel for "violence against Palestinians" at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.

    Resolution 641: " ... 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.

    Resolution 608: " ... 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".

    Resolution 607: " ... calls on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".

    Resolution 605: " ... strongly deplores Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians".

    Resolution 592: " ... strongly deplores the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".

    Resolution 517: " ... censures Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions

    Resolution 471: " ... expresses deep concern at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".

    Resolution 452: " ... calls on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".

    Resolution 446 (1979): determines that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".

    Resolution 444: " ... deplores Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".

    Resolution 271: " ... condemns Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem.

    Resolution 262: " ... condemns Israel for attack on Beirut airport

    Resolution 259: " ... deplores Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation

    and there are many more. Its sickening.
     
    moe374, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  18. moe374

    moe374 Active Member

    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    #798
    The children who were orphaned by the israeli army and who's homes got demolished and freinds and families perished, those children got a little older, they found a way to avenge their friends and families deaths, and now Israel is paying for their actions.

    Its not right, but thats whats happening. Sadly, Israel continues its ways and so this deadly cylce will continue to carry on, with more casualties leading to more casualties.
     
    moe374, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  19. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    509
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    235
    #799
    Just look at the map.

    Jordan is Palestine.

    What is the difference between a Jordanian and Palestinian?
     
    bogart, Feb 7, 2008 IP
  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #800
    More like Mocumentary... All one has to do is look at the map I posted to get an idea of why Israel is constantly on the defensive. UN resolutions are about as worthless as tits on a boar hog.
     
    Mia, Feb 7, 2008 IP
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.