These are the faces of Islamic Oppression

No. I'm waiting for Will. Why you would dishonestly assert I'm responsible for your laziness is beyond me, but I suspect Will will take you to task for your hidden agenda. Getting anxious?

That's odd. I feel like it's been a great day! Perhaps you are projecting your own miserable day onto me? That would be a shocker, eh?

 

Ahhh just another "great" day for Gtech, spreading prejudice, hate, dishonesty, propaganda, lies and character attacks! Way to go!

 

Well, get to work reading the Qua'ran. Go right to the source yourself. Anything else could be the result of a conspiracy between the lizard people, the Jews, and the CIA.

When you're done, you'll be a lot more knowledgeable about your new friends.

Of course, if you're a complete knee-biting loser, you can just look for excerpts like this one:

[The Light 24.55] Allah has promised to those of you who believe and do good that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth as He made rulers those before them...

 

Not at all. Every day that I see you on the forums, is a great day. And of course, Ron Paul has just finished second in another caucus, one of many powerful showings coming our way.

 

No pictures for this one, but the London Times has published an interesting article titled Family of teen Muslim invited men to rape her which sheds some light on the effects of the Islamification of portions of Great Britain.

The headline story is fairly instructional regarding human rights under Islamic law:

A GIRL of 15 was tricked into a "telephone marriage" ceremony to a Sheffield man with a mental age of five in a ceremony recognised by sharia (Islamic law).

When the girl arrived from Pakistan expecting to meet the handsome man she had been shown in a photograph, she found that he was 40 years old, unemployed and disabled.
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The girl's marriage last April was not recognised by the Home Office but was approved by the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain.
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Some of the other stories in the article are more revealing:

The study reveals the case of Saamiya, a 16-year-old girl from Birmingham, whose parents were so angry when they discovered she had a boyfriend that they flew her to Pakistan and told her they had arranged a marriage two hours before the ceremony.

"During the Islamic ceremony my dad was standing behind me with one hand on my shoulder and with his other hand he had a gun which was pointed at my back so that I didn't say 'no'," Saamiya said.

"To everyone else it looked natural — he was just standing there stroking my shoulder — but just before he had told me that he would shoot me if I didn't go through with it."

She was rescued from Pakistan by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office's forced marriage unit and now lives in a refuge in the Midlands, but has been told that she will be murdered by her brothers. The girl told investigators: "I haven't been back home since then. My brothers say that they want to take me back to Pakistan so they can kill me basically. They'll just pay the police there to keep quiet... I don't want to be killed. I'm only 16. I want to live my life." ​

"I want to live my life." -- That doesn't sound so unreasonable to me. It's too bad that so many people are blinded by religion and unable to see how reasonable that request really is.

 

DO NOT BE MISTAKEN islam does not say this nor does it propogate this. The father is way out of bounds on killing thier daughters (i am muslim and consider my self practising to the best of my abilities)

i am nither a schoolar but those articles on freedom faith i can easily tear up and rip to shreds (metphorically).

it is a shame no one talk about the good islam offers for example

the prophet Muhammed (S.A.W) in his early years was walking in a near by town (this was when the people of mecca were still non- muslim) so anyways he saw an old lady carrying food/ stuff etc. So he offered her to help and so she accepted while they were walking she was explaining to him that " you know there is a man named Muhammed in the next town spreading lies rumors and your a nice person so I am just warning You" and so she kept saying bad things about the prophet Muhammed (S.A.W) but he said nothing just smiled

So when they arrived at thier destination he put down her load and she asked him "what is your name?" and he replies "Mohammed" she immediately fell and accepted islam.

did you also know that islam was the first religion to give women thier protection.

Back then women were treated a "burden" and often in the middle east before islam if a child was born and if it were a girl and the men found out they would bury it alive!!

Women were treated very harshly but it is islam that first gave women thier protection and rights.

Islam and our prophet (S.A.W) does not permit us to even lay hand on our women folk.

So why do some still do it? well its not becuase of religion but becuase of culture they are two different things...

BTW the story above was as best as i can recall it i will try to find the actual words if i can post it, but I just said the story in a nutshell...

But wait i have another a story for you...

Again this is summed up...

Again back in the prophets days there mosques did not have roofs so keep that in mind. So anyways one a prisioner was captured by muslims and tied up on a piller for 3 days (everything provided food etc.) Im pretty sure it was in the mosque that he was tied up in but can not recall.

So anyways after the first day he was asked accept islam and you will be let go. So he said "no"

Second day again he was asked accept islam and again he said "no"

On the third day again he was asked to accept islam and again he replied as "no"

So now they let him loose and said ok your free. And so then he walks back in a says "i want to accept islam"

And they asked why didnt you just do it earlier and i said i did not want it too seem as you were forcing me.

but the question here is why did he accept. he certainly was not forced then why did he do it? The answers lays here, in his heart he was affected by his surroundings. he saw in those 3 day how the muslims lived, how they flourished, how they managed with each other. With what respect they had for each other and he was just moved by what he saw.
(allah's decision)

So in short the way the muslims are portraying islam these days is wrong we are not doing it right.

In the prophet(S.A.W) many people did not even have to be asked to accept islam they came to it why? becuase they saw it portryed in the proper way and such a beutiful way it is...

I urge you do your research before you post anything on islam if you have any questions feel free to pm me.

 

this is not islam it is just a bad person with horrible intentions

 

Do you believe that the murder of Asma Bint Marwan was justified, on the grounds that she satirized Muhammad?

Do you believe that all women who satirize Muhammad should be similarly murdered?

 

Actually, the father was just following Surah 2, Verse 221:

Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.
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absolutely not islam is against murder it is sin no matter what. Now do not get me wrong war is different. I my self would never ever lay a bad hand as in try to intentionally hurt or injure a women. I refuse to do so. And i have never herd to prophet do it.

people including women threw stuff at the prophet (S.A.W) but he never ever touched them only when they can to war against him that is when he had to fight back

but again i am not a sholar...

 

I have not yet read that article yet all i have seen is that forced part etc. There is no such thing as a forced marrige in islam for the marrige to be good both groom and bride must agree but yes they may not marry "non muslims" i do belive that

 

I am glad that you are against this murder, but that leaves me slightly confused.

You see, Asma Bint Marwan was murdered while she slept with her babies in her arms -- upon the orders of Muhammad himself.

This is straight out of the Sirah Rasul Allah.

So, unfortunately, I am left quite confused. Either you must endorse the murder of this woman for satirizing Muhammad or you must criticize Muhammad for murdering a woman whose only crime was poetry.

Do you believe that Aisha, at the age of 6 (7, by some accounts), was able to fully agree to marry Muhammad? Do you believe that a child of that age has to mental and emotional capacity to enter in marriage?

 

Refuted here:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/the-killing-of-abu-afak-and-asma-bint-marwan/

And this was discussed here:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/the-young-marriage-of-aishah/

If you have nothing new to say apart from repeating your usual, bigoted interpretation of Islamic events, might I suggest that you just shut up?

 

Thank you friend.

Will Spencer is blinded by hate, keeps posting propaganda from anti-Muslim sites all the time. Such behaviour is pathetic and disgusting.

 

You call those refutations? They are closer to admissions.

The first event is documented in Islamic histories and is only discounted by later Islamic scholars who found the events to be distasteful.

The second event is, even in the reference you linked, 100% admitted.

The simple facts are that the people discussed in this thread are behaving in ways which are completely compatible with the teachings and actions of Muhammad. They aren't crazy, any more than every soldier in the German Army in WWII was crazy. They are simply following a belief system which teaches bad things.

The people in this thread who are supporting that belief system in the face of an undeniable torrent of evidence are simply unwilling to accept facts which contradict the beliefs under which they were reared.

Please quit attacking Muslims and start questioning Islam. These people are victims of Islam as much as their victims are.

 

The Prophet refused to kill a woman who did intentionally try to poison him, but people want us to believe that he ordered the killing of a woman who only abused him verbally.

 

You're picking and choosing which parts of Muhammad's life to believe and which to deny, based upon your own moral prejudice's. That process is inherently intellectually dishonest.

Your prejudice's betray your moral outlook as fundamentally Western. A true Islamist would simply argue that, as the Prophet did these things, they are inherently moral. Anything which the Prophet touches with his right hand is blessed by Allah.

What good does it do you to worship this odd religion of yours. It's not Islam. It's sort of a fusion of part Islam, part nationalist politics, and part crazed football fanboi. What's the point?

Have you no feelings at all for the victims of all of this evil which you are supporting?

 

How quick of you to simply dismiss the findings just because those Islamic scholars have found those lies that you keep asserting is false.

Had you actually read it (which I seriously doubt that you did), you would have come across this paragraph:

So I guess now its the time to "pick-and-choose", eh? Disregard what the Islamic scholars say which does not agree with your bigotry, and take those stories from these same sources which does!

Which takes away the spin from your story. So what happened to your "discounted by later Islamic scholars who found the events to be distasteful" remark? You didn't like the way that they said that the story of Asma' bint Marwan is false, but you certainly do not have any problems accepting the story of Aishah (R) from these very same sources you earlier rejected.

This is evidence of your double-faced, two-timing nature.

A "Muslim" is "one who submits (to God)" in Islam. And Islam is the religion of the Muslims. You cannot create a dichotomy of two congruous terms without being outrightly Islamophobic. One cannot "quit" attacking Muslims by "questioning" Islam, since it is obvious that your method of "questioning" (I call it "outright lie and misrepresentation") is tantamount to an attack on ALL Muslims, without exception.

As a matter of fact, you are most certainly an Islamophobe, so nothing that you say about Islam or Muslims should be taken seriously by any rational individual.

 

I agree with you one hundred percent. Its amazing that these people will not tolerate "anti-Semitic" remarks, and yet these are same hoodlums who will repeat the same myopic, bigoted and xenophobic filth of Islamophobia.

 

Save the xenophobic BS and put him on permanent ignore.

I did it ages ago and my life is so much better for doing so.