Hello Today I've received this mail from Iwhic: I've sent them a support ticket that I don't want to pay this, but they sent back that I have to. I've also received a order confirmation :S I'm not going to pay this because this $3/month is more expencive then just the hosting. It's a crappy host with a lot of problems and I think they try to earn some money via this way. What do you think. Do I have to pay this?
Well, it is in your best interest... and they can charge you for whatever they want. If you don't want it then find a new host. Like you said, the hosting is very cheap so it shouldn't be much of a problem, if you have a master reseller anyway then sell like one more account a month and it would be payed for
A dedicated IP will be good for a master reseller ,but I do not do like this, a compusory dedicated ip purchase. Infact, I am trying not to sell more dedicated ips because of justification and all those things, headache for me.
I don't want to spend a single cent more with them. They have had a few big downtimes for more then a week.
When was this down time you are referring to? Today when the Network was being worked on ? Besides a a scheduled php tweak on server 2 3 days ago there has been no down time! If your having problems with your accounts loading. Please send a support ticket and we can assist. 9 Out of 10 times We here "The server is down" Is because of Miss Configured DNS for your account's. This can be fixed and we will trace route and find what is wrong and fix for free! There is no reason to wait if you feel there is a problem. We are here to help with all issue. Thank you Jason
I'm not talking about today or something. Check this topic: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=665343&highlight=iwhic And when my account was transfered to you, I was unable to use it for 3 weeks.
Hi, yes we have been through that and we did have a problem and we are back up It was not 3 weeks of down time though., When you accounts got moved to us from host parlor there they were active right away. There was issues with Eddies servers and his servers were not staying on line for us to transfer them so the down time you had then was from his servers, Any ways that has all been taken care of and the servers are running great. We are getting a 3rd 8 core server put on line today as well. The reason we are doing this is to help all the accounts on the servers. Not to make us any money.. Between the cost that we have to pay for the ips from the data center and the pay pal fees I don't think we are even making any money off this. All your and your clients accounts will be on that ip and thats it, no others will be on that ip. This is going to be a requirement as we are trying to restructure the server so that all accounts load faster, and so that we can better server our clients. As it stands right now all the accounts are on a shared ip.. Lets say for instance john doe sends out thousands of spam mail, time we catch it, it is already to late, then the shared ip gets black listed and no emails can be sent and so on.. and that will affect everyone on the server. Or if some one gets the ip banned from there proxy sites which is very common. Well if you are on your own ip then what all the other clients on the server do will not affect you (as far as getting ips banned and blocked) If you have any more questions about this please let us know we will be happy to assist and answer all questions. IwhiC.Com
I would buck up and Pay... IP addresses, are expensive to acquire, administer and justify. What you are paying for is the administrative fee for having the allocation. Do keep in mind also that it is only necessary to have additional IP's for SSL... There is no other justifiable reason IMO. They charge is not at all unusual, and anything but overpriced. Expect to pay $5 - $10/per IP on average anywhere else.
THat's the biggest BS i've ever seen! Load times have nothing to do with the ip they are on or how many domains are on a single IP! Ofcourse! You're doing this to help the children in Africa. Isn't that obvious? $2 is the standard. From the datacenter you get it for $1 at most. But as he sais it ain't about the money...it's the soul that counts
In volume... But for the /29 and lower and higher allocations, expect to pay more. Again, I really want to stress the point that there should be no reason to have more than 1 IP address per server, none, unless you are doing SSL.
Oh I'm so sorry! Let me put this to Public! We are charged $2.00 Per IP We are charging $3.00 Per Ip After PayPal fees there is a grand total of $0.58 cents Profit!!!! Sweet, it takes 5 ip address a month to buy 1 happy meal! How many do we need to support your quest in Africa?
My opinion on this is that you should not take paid or get a profit from IP sales! At least not when you REQUIRE your clients to get IP addresses after purchase! My opinion is that you offer this IP as cheap as possible for the existing clients that is now forced to get a IP...
The point in the charges are two fold. 1. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM and they are not easy to justify 2. TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM USING THEM - they will be gone in 2 years or less! Any responsible host will say the same thing. They cost money, they are rare, and they are only going to rise in price as they get more scarce and more providers attempt to discourage wasting them.
I am not talking about you Mia, i am talking about iWhic when he force the clients to get a dedicated IP! And on the top of that he wants income from the IPs!
No it isnt Iwhic! But if i was going to force my clients to order a dedicated IP.. Then i would charge 60 cent extra just to afford a happy meal
Ok, I did not realize a dedicated IP was required. No host should have this as a requirement. It is completely contradictory to IETF RFC 2050.
Oh my God this is just getting ridiculous, I am sorry that I charged an extra .58 cents for the time and paper work that I have to do to get the justification forms filled out for this.. I really don't know why this thread was even brought to the forums to begin with.. Reading this forum as been better then the daily soaps.. Why make a big deal about 3.00 a month.
The big deal around this is not that you take 60 cent extra! The deal is that you practicly FORCE your clients to get a dedicated IP when its seriosly not necessary! You are then charging extra to fill in justification forms ? I would say that its ok if the client requested a dedicated IP, to charge some extra! But in this matter the client dont want a dedicated IP at all, nor does he want to pay for one! But when you force him to get one, and then charge extra because you have to fill in justification forms even tho its you that requires the client to get a dedicated IP and not the client that wants it! This entire thing is just lame from the iWhic side!
I'm not arguing about the price, it is more than justified. I am questioning whether it is true that you make the use of a dedicated IP address per customer in an shared hosting environment a requirement. I'd really suggest reading up on IETF RFC 2050 if that is truly the case. I cannot see how you could possible justify assigning a single IP for every customer, unless they are all using SSL, or their own dedicated server. There is no question that ISP's incur a cost related to paperwork, SWIP and or maintaining a rwhois server, ARIN fees, and other administrative fees as well as maintaining a larger routing table. Compensation for that is agreeably justified and quite common in our industry. What is not acceptable is intentionally being wasteful with a limited resource.