How can i optimize website having content totally in Flash ?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by chaitanya.seo, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hi experts,

    I need to know how i can optimize the website which is built in totally flash ?

    For the image we could have ALT for image optimization,

    is there any particular tag for flash optimization ?

    do you think website built in flash are good ?

    Need your suggestions for the same.

    Regards,
    Chaitanya Patel.
     
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  2. JWRmedia

    JWRmedia Banned

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    #2
    I think from an SEO perspective, flash is not a good idea at all. Personally, flash is annoying and slow.

    I would strongly recommend giving your visitors the option of viewing the site in flash or html, especially for visitors with slow Internet connections.

    Then your HTML pages will give the search engines something to index.
     
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  3. chaitanya.seo

    chaitanya.seo Banned

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    #3
    Hi buddy,
    Absolutely you are right,
    but if one needs to have his website in flash and wants to optimize there might be some strategy.
    I have heard that if you do strong link building for such website, you can get higher positions in SERP's.
    As far as i know with out content it won;t be possible, we need to rely on title and meta only for the on page optimization,
    Will you provide me tips for optimizing particular flash content in website.

     
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  4. Bloomtools

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    #4
    optimization of website is very much hard work to do.
    crawler won't understand scripting languages any more.
    For this the best option that only u used that buying links for getting high traffic towards to your website.
    Regards,
    Bloomtools.
     
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    Hi Dear,

    As you know, Flash site is harder to get ranking in search engines and in sort time. strong back links are ok but it will take much time and also most of FREE links running with Dangerous techniques like nofollow.

    we know very well about that problem so we can try to use flash in only header part and some effective adverts on the site.

    Webpronews has specified some Tips for flash optimization, so might be can helpful.

    webpronews.com/topnews/2005/09/28/flash-seo-and-optimization-how-to-properly-use-flash-on-your-websites

    and also please check second below link for How to optimize Flash for search engines ? (Both link open with www if not)

    avangate.com/articles/flash-seo_55.htm

    also discuss with client and tell him to use flash only in header part.


    Thanks
    Jay
     
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  6. chaitanya.seo

    chaitanya.seo Banned

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    #6
    Thanks for both the link you provided here,
    i will go through it,
    because i need to optimize wisely for the websites having only flash content.
    Thanks again.
    Chaitanya.
     
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    Hi Dear,

    Here is also good info about flash content and java script.


    please check Below Blog for Modern Approach flash in seo, may be will helpful for your site.


    blog.deconcept.com/2006/03/13/modern-approach-flash-seo (just open with http if not)


    Thanks
    Yeswin
     
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  8. seo daddy

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    #8
    Flash sites are useless for SEO and high ranking.

    Unless the site is a very strong brand (like Addidas or Nike) you will not rank anywhere except with massive link building effort, and even then you may not rank well.

    If someone wants a flash site optimising, walk away or rebuild it in html with a 'few' flash elements if they must have it.

    Flash + SEO = BAD MIX :)
     
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    if your website really makes visitors, visit yoru site again and again, then you can go with flash. Like gaming sites and all. Now the way of optimization is using meta tags, and link building with anchor text of the search term that has good traffic.
     
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    You may get trouble for trying to rank flash based sites. Spiders are hard to index flash sites unless you have also a html version of your site.
     
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    #11
    you're going to have a hard time optimizing a flash site...spiders can't read scripts...
     
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    Traditional Search Engine Optimization (SEO) techniques would help your site get indexed, but not rank for search terms. Every web site needs at least one HTML page to load into a browser. For a web site developed completely in Flash, developers would embed their flash files into an HTML document and then create the meta tags in the head section of the HTML file. They would also add descriptive HTML text for the search engines in the body section of the HTML page, then use CSS positioning and percentages to load the Flash move in a pixel-perfect location over the top of text. This particular technique should not be used any longer, as search engines will view this technique as an attempt to add hidden text, and hidden text will incur a penalty from the engines.
     
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    #13
    Flash site is so hard to optimize.....
    and for every visitor that slow internet connection
    flash website is slow and annoying.....
     
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    #14
    Make two pages .. one in Flash and one in regular HTML with all static hand code.
    Make a Javascript function: SWFObject()
    To see if the browsers can handle reading the Flash or not. If it cant it will send them to the HTML page.
    ** and is what spiders will do to read your page content.

    Make sure to include all the DIV and functions though. So essentially you'll have two sites where one is the default Flash content, the other is for non-compliant browers and spiders. Please note this method wouldnt be 100% guaranteed for spiders
     
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    Have you ever seen a good flash site toping the google page for any keyword term ? think about it :) i dont have any answer for your question
     
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    I think this is your best option, flash cant be crawled, so make it so it can be, and add flash elements, i know i just repeated what he said, but i see this as the only option.
     
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    #17
    you can hardly optimized a page if it fully flash., and some visitors may not appreciate flash sites.,
     
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    Make your website famous by running ppc campaigns ....seo for flash is hard
     
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    #19
    if you still with your flash web idea.

    try blogging its will help your potential customer and search engine like blog.

    do blogging and link back to your flash media web
    it will help you for long run
     
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    By creating static site for your html will help...
     
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