So how much does it matter to have a PR of 7 instead of 5?

Discussion in 'Google' started by Italkcash, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. #1
    Lets say for example that two identical pages with the same content and only a difference in the domain name (.net and .com) had the two different PR's. For the sake of the .com and .net argument lets say that the .net had a PR 7 and the .com had a PR 5. Which one would score best user wise? And why really? Does the difference between 5 and 7 really matter? Its not that there are many with PR 7 and more anyway.....
     
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  2. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    You could have PR1 and still outrank the PR7.. quite easily.. I've seen it before, and plenty of times. :)
     
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  3. Italkcash

    Italkcash Peon

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    So whats the reason for PR? Does it prove to give more traffic at the time it changes from X to Y?
     
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  4. bewise

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    No... PR is just one aspect of a very complex algorithm. It assesses the trustworthiness of a page, but google also takes many other factors into consideration such as relevance, content etc etc. The nature of the web is such that it is very unlikely that you would have 2 pages that are identical.
     
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  5. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    High pr doesn't mean higher rankings ....
     
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  6. aira

    aira Active Member

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    PR may give some extra 'points' on a site and there's a lot of other things to consider other than this. imo, getting high rankings should be our goal other than getting high PR
     
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  7. FREE BET

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    People who sell links benefit big time with a pr7 as they can sell a link for a higher price
     
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  8. mickmel

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    Most people think that PR levels are based on a factor of about 5 or 6. Therefore, a PR7 page probably has about 25x more link juice coming in when compared to a PR5.

    While the PR itself won't help much, the contributing factors from having 25 times more links (wider variety of anchor text, more links within the niche, etc) will likely prove to be a huge advantage for the PR7 site.
     
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  9. Brianmorta

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    For the most part, PR usually helps people with the ranking of their site. But for the most part, no body really knows how the algorithm works. But hopefully PR still helps with ranking the site.
     
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  10. mickmel

    mickmel Peon

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    I view PR much like the Weight Watchers Points system. A Big Mac is 13 points, and essentially ruins the day if you're on Weight Watchers. :) However, the Points aren't what make you fat -- it's the 560 calories and 30 grams of fat. The 13 points are just a snapshot of that.

    PR is very much the same way. I don't think that PR helps much on it's own. However, a high PR means:

    - The site has a lot of good backlinks
    - Some of those backlinks are high PR sites themselves
    - The site isn't brand new. PR is thought to be about six months out of date, so the inbound links must be at least that old, if not older.

    The high PR is just a badge of honor for the site, but the love from Google is a consequence of the reasons listed above, probably not from the PR itself.
     
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  11. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    Pagerank is also an outdated metric by the time it hits the toolbar, who's to say the PR5 isn't now a PR8 internally and the PR7 hasn't lost some authority links and dropped to a PR4?

    Last update i had some sites go from PR N/A to PR6, what makes the site any different in weight between the day before the update showing PR Zero and the day after the update showing PR6? Nothing, and that's why Pagerank is very inaccurate.
     
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    There's no correlation between PR and visitors.
    So, what exactly your question?
     
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  13. gpearce

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    #13
    PR is just a game Google made, their search rankings aren't on PR, more on the number of targetted links to your site from sites with the same type of content and decent taglines.
    PR could make 0 difference, ages ago my PR0 site outranked a PR6 site, beating 3,445,--- other results to top spot, with about 10 targetted links.
    It doens't make a huge difference, but it looks good if you are trying to sell up :)
     
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  14. mickmel

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    Because they update the toolbar about once a quarter, with data that is about three months older than that. What you're saying is you had a PR0 one day, then three months later had a PR6.

    Toolbar PageRank is likely inaccurate, and certainly not up-to-date. Their internal PR is probably quite accurate, though.


    Even if PR was a huge factor, it's obviously not the only factor. If it was the only factor, then the PR10 sites would be on top for every query. My PR3 church site can beat a PR9 or 10 if you search for the right terms, but that has nothing to do with PageRank.
     
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    LOL.My is only PR0...
     
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    Thats right. Only that reason we always try to get more backlinks from the relevance sites than unnecessary unrelated traffic.
     
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    The only thing a PR7 is good for is for selling links
    One can pay more for a PR7 than a PR5
    (everything else being equal though)
     
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    Page rank determines how often the algorithm will index your site if your a 7 then you will be ranked every 24 hours if your a pr6 then every 72 hours and a 5 is every week. Pr does effect where you list but it is not the only factor there for a pr7 site that say dog only one time is not going to show up as the first site when you type in dog and search however if the pr7 site wanted to get that spot they could very easily do so by buying there domain for a longer period of time on optimizing there text for keywords. One more key roll is how long a site has been around if the crappy pr site has been around forever and the pr7 site has not this is probably why it is listed before the pr7.
     
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    Its amazing the importance people place on PR.
     
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    #20
    PR is nothing to do with SERP..... PR is only the importance of your site to Google. You can outrank the higher PR in term of SERP.
     
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