My First $1000.00 Day On Azoogle

Yea - that's generally the way most people approach promoting affiliate products in my experience. Except I have a couple of more steps from niche landing page ---> convincing the user into a whim purchase --> product landing page

 

GTAce already hit this one - but yes - quality score is not a big factor on the CN. If you get hit by it, my understanding is that you will know because you will start getting no impressions. If you do get Googleslapped, then you just improve everything on your landing site(s), move to another domain(s), and start again. I'm already preparing for this, whether it happens next week, next month or in 3 months.

 

I would think that all those extra steps would make the buyer that much less interested.. 1 landing/squeeze directing to another that squeezes some more?

I had some CPC that I was getting great CTR but never a conversion. I ended up dumping product after product because I could never get sale... basically just pi$$ing money away. So frustrating...

 

I guess my main question would be the landing page itself. I understand what you mean by thinking outside the box as far as keywords go, but what would your own custom landing page consist of?

more graphics than text?

more text than graphics?

how much is too much on a landing page?

and it seems that you are speaking of upselling other offers on the landing page? is that correct?

I am looking to do a test of 20 different offers with a $500 budget spread equally across each offer. What would be good/standard campaign settings to use for such a test?

I know I asked a lot of questions =) I appreciate any answers to any of them that you can give without telling too much.

 

Yea, by the time they hit the actual ringtone landing page it's like a 1:7 conversion or better usually. By that time, the traffic has been funneled down and qualified.

 

If you're talking about the ringtone landing page, do a search for ringtones on Google. My landing page looks like any of those - above the fold, big graphics, choose your carrier, etc. Pretty easy and straightforward.

20 different offers? Do you mean just ringtone offers? If so, I would ask your AM for the best 3 and just cycle those... 20 is a lot, that means with a $500 budget your allowing only $25 worth of traffic to each offer, compared to ~ $100-150 if you only do a couple.

 

I meant 20 different offers. So you're saying it would still be insufficient amount ($25) to test on each offer?

How big of a factor does the CPC rate play for you?

How big of a factor is "thinking outside the box" as far as thinking of and finding good keywords that don't include the name of the type of product/service that is being sold? in your case, not even running ads for the keyword "ringtone". And when you do this, do you try to come up with a big list of such keywords so it makes up for the amount of traffic you would get since some keywords would not be as popular as "ringtones" but when adding them up, the traffic would be as high?

I've read every reply in this thread but not sure if I missed this, so I apologize if I am repeating a question, but which of the following do you do: broad match, exact match, exact phrase? As far as I understood do you do whichever combination that relates to the type of product/service that is being advertised?

Last, but not least, do you target your ads to specific countries?

Appreciate the time you are taking to help us all! Not something you need to do but goes to show that there are still people who care to spread the knowledge to others! Thanks once again

 

I keep CPC low by utilizing content network. .04-.09 at max, as compared to search which would require $1.50-5.00 for ringtones keywords (which in my experience never converted anyway).

Thinking outside the box is everything, at least in this case, with a competitive, saturated niche like ringtones. Try throwing up an ad group geared toward something completely random like woodworking or something, pay .05 for clicks, drive 1,000 clicks and see if anyone converts. If not, you lost $50 or so.

I use broad match, but that's only for content network. It's my understanding that Google assigns each ad group a theme for the content network, so I would use G's keyword tool to dig out related keywords.

As for countries, I'm only doing USA right now. Spreading out to other countries is in my short term to-do list though.

Good luck.

 

I would have never thought about running ringtone ads using woodworking keywords etc. I guess that everyone has cell phones and an interest in that. I'm sure that the fact the the niche applies to more people.. but what about those niche's that are more specific?

 

i know your probably looking for me to say i have a 50cent ad group or a linkin park ad group - but i don't. i have tried bands and musical groups, ad groups that you would think would make sense, but they either didn't perform or cost too much to run. test test test. who knows, cat food and wood working could be $500 /day niches.

 

and if were to gear it towards something like woodworking, the ad would be in your case for ringtones? or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to explain?

oh and "I said no salt, no salt"

 

Maybe. An ad titled "Get some Ringtones" geared toward a woodworking audience wouldn't get a high CTR through.

Howabout...

and ad like "Free Woodworking Tips - Web's Best Tips blah blah" with a page of tips and a conveniently placed banner for ringtones at the top and/or bottom? Said too much!

Again, my personal process incorporates 2 or 3 more important elements. I'm not sure if that model I laid out above has enough strength to grab the traffic you need for conversions. Who knows. Affiliate marketing is crazy business.

 

Alright.. that makes a bit more sense...a bit of cross marketing.. but again, since ringtones has alot of "generic" appeal to all types of people it probably fits.

One of my niches is a sport, so I have a specific audience... (and I'm sure they would like ringtones but I won't be pushing that), so in your model I would be placing CPC ads for my niche and then try to appeal to them using another affiliate product that they be interested in? or maybe the other way around.. interesting approach..

 

test out both ways, who knows till you try.

 

do you place links/ads to other offers on your landing page?

 

i've tried other stuff, absolutely. but i've never had more than 1 offer at a time.

 

well done! I keep reading more and more about affiliate success stories. This is definitely something I'm putting in my pipeline of projects

 

so its safe to say that you might attack websites of another niche and advertise your offer on there and while these websites are not directly related to your offer, they mgiht fall within similar demographics and the lower cpc on those websites makes it all worthwhile? obviously easier said than done... but am I on the right track?

 

sounds solid to me.

 

2 more questions:

1) what kind of range on the payout do you try to go for on the offers you use
2) on average what kind of % of people that click on your ad, then follow through and click to the offer's website? because it seems to me that if the ad does not go directly to the offers website, the conversions are way lower? or how is it?

sorry for my many many questions =/ answer whatever you can. I am just trying to keep as many things in mind as possible