Hello everyone, I am just being curious. Are all DP members reliable? Should we trust them? I came to question this because earlier, I offered help to a linux newbie. He said that he DOESN't know ANYTHING about the said OS. So here I came, offered him a help saying that I can help him monetize his empty linux dedicated server. All i need is a remote access to the machine. So, after several minutes, I got a reply. And he said, "ok. will hand it to you.. of course not!" I should let the DP mods that they should keep an eye on you. No one would just blatantly hand over their remote access info to a new guy with 50 posts.... cumon.... i mean anyone could get 50 posts damn quikly then pull scams like u could be trying to do... If you were a member for 2 years and had loike 10k posts then I might think about it. But still only think about it." I understand his side and not give away remote access just like that because I too, is a systems administrator. But to judge you just like that, because of the number of posts you made? I am an active DP member for a week now. As you can see, I have just been starting and I have just a few posts. Now, here's the question... What can be our basis in hiring someone to work for us? Thanks to the guys who trusted me with their very confidential accesses. Cheers, Ilovelinux
Post count/ date joined (Good indicator, scammers usually don't have huge post counts and are active over years), Reputation (not as great but gives a general idea), Itraders (Better then rep. because you can see comments), Quality of posts (If the mate has 2000 posts and all of them are I'll buy it or "Stumble my site"; that would be a no go), Language/grammer skills (seriously, a lot of things can be lost in translation and it can be very frustrating to work with someone you can't understand) What they talk about/ opinions (I have thought about working with certain people on the forums for jobs but have decided over moral grounds that I did not want to be apart of one of their plans because of what they said to others or certain beliefs (not religious, more like Nazi supporters and such).)
But what about those "good guys" that just started joining this thread? I mean the guys that has capabilities. Don't they deserve the right to be counted?
yes they do deserve the right however majority those join recently and start getting into trades, BST forums and in business with others are bound to be scammers most times so people are on guard for security/safety precautions
Ok so thats my point. Why not ask instead the newbies any guarantees of their job. Anyone still has the right to impose their rules.
I think it doesn't really matter how much posts you've already made or how long you've been a member of DP. It's not really a good basis but then you have to accept the fact also that you're dealing with people online and there's not that much security with online transactions. People are just being safe that's why you have to earn a good reputation first before you could expect people to trust you easily... or to trust you at all. But it would have been nice if that other person would have reacted in a kindly manner. What's the point in offending the person who offered you help? It still boils down to a person's attitude. No matter if you see the person personally or just deal with him online, you would still sense the kind of attitude he has.
Yes. Thanks for that philposters. I just want fairness in here. What would happen to other new DP members if the "Seniors" in these community would bail them out just like that? Imagine mods.
This is an online community ilovelinux and you would deal with different people. Some would be nice to you while some would stick their foot down your throat. It's quite unfortunate but some people just love making other people feel bad.
Do as what you would do in real world, I think you will be safe, if you follow posts, if a member has 10 000 posts and is say 2 to 3 years old, you can check his posts or those posts about him. At least there is some records to show.
I've dealt with loads of DP members (new and old) and my experiences have generally been positive. Obviously something like giving server access to someone with no prior history should not be done, but simple things like small trades I don't see any problem with.
New guys or old guys (high vs low post count)... with all things in life, you need to gain reputation. I have no idea how/why I started getting e-mails/PMs about AdSense assistance, but now I constantly get random e-mails/PMs from people asking for help. I actually enjoy helping people... especially with stuff online that can help them make more legit money. I personally wouldn't trust a person from the get-go. Take The Emirates Gallastico (above) for instance... I've told him things I normally wouldn't mention in public... but for some reason the guy is just so darn charismatic (LOL), and he gained my trust... 4K posts and he joined in Sep! Obviously I didn't make a mistake in trusting him. Others though... you can only go so far with trust. I've had people request I put my sites on their servers for free... no idea why, but I decline. Random PMs like that get you wondering what the catch is.
He opened a thread asking for help. HE should have not aired it to people instead. What do you guys think?
Trust is hard to damn find these days. I think if he started a thread asking for help and you replied there was nothing wrong. There should've been a minimum requirement asked if OP was going to be picky (which I can't say that I blame him). All in good faith, I suppose. No harm done... just people trying to watch their backs.
A little skepticism is healthy, but if your paranoid about potentially being scammed then doing business on the internet isnt the right place for you. But i think most of the time, if you just follow your own intuition and common sense you wont have to worry about getting burnt. Like me personally i know im kinda new so i only work with ppl with good reputation.
I gotta disagree with you on that point. Post count and date joined are very important factors for skimming out scammers and such. With a large amount of posts you can generally get a gist for the person and what they think and how they act around situations. The people who want to scam you usually don't plan to hard at the act, unless their looking for one big deal. I very highly doubt that one person would join back in 2004 and just decide to take some people down now, it don't usually work that way. The post count is a effective tool as it allows you to see someones dedication to the community and it's a natural rule online, that one should not be trusted when they are first met. You just don't throw your trust around at everyone. You gotta be subjective with who you deal with. My two cents, Cheers, Kngavl,
Well, I gotta disagree with you too. I've had many transactions done here on DP and both from newbies and old members. I don't believe that post count truly matters as long as you don't put yourself in a dangerous situation. They may have lots of positive itraders but come to think of it, with a lot of phishing going on these days you can never tell who you're actually dealing with anymore. It is a good basis, I don't disagree with you on that. But it's not proper to just disregard the newbies just simply because they're newbies. That's just my point.
Well one thing is you show something about yourself raising up this point, it does help others do some thinking on how to trust and when to trust. A very good point which would indeed be a plus for you, when one searches for sys admin help.