Maximum links in a Sitemap?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by cloghouse, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hi

    Should there be a maximum number of internal links in your Site map?

    Does it make any difference to your SEO rankings if you have 100s of internal links in your site map?

    Thanks
     
    cloghouse, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    #2
    A sitemap isn't there to boost your rankings, it's there to help get your pages indexed.
     
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  3. cloghouse

    cloghouse Peon

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    But doesn't the site map effect your distribution of PR? Also, I read that you shouldn't have more that 30 outbound links on a page, is this info way off?
     
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    PRC Well-Known Member

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    A sitemap is keeping the PR within your site. The 30 outbound links is to other sites.
     
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    Ok - thanks that clears things up
     
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    Here's Google man Matt Cutts's recent comment on Google's earlier recommendation of no more than 100 links per page. Boldfaced type is mine, not Matt's:

    "The reason for the 100 links per page guideline is because we used to crawl only about the first 101 kilobytes of a page. If somebody had a lot more than a hundred links, then it was a little more likely that after we truncated the page at a 100 kilobytes, that page would get truncated and some of the links would not be followed or would not be counted. Nowadays, I forget exactly how much we crawl and index and save, but I think it is at least, we are willing to save half a megabyte from each page.

    So, if you look at the guidelines, we have two sets of guidelines on one page. We have: quality guidelines which are essentially spam and how to avoid spam; and we have technical guidelines. The technical guidelines are more like best practices. So, the 100 links is more like a 'best practice' suggestion, because if you keep it under a 100, you are guaranteed you are never get truncated."


    http://www.stephanspencer.com/search-engines/matt-cutts-interview
     
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    #7
    Site map is used to index site pages so it ll not harm. add all pages of your site to sitemap.
     
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    I am pretty sure there is a limit of 50k per sitemap, I remember it being in google Webmaster Help somewhere
     
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    Jim,

    Thanks for the interesting info.
     
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    #10
    PR won't increase because of big ammount of internal links, try to get backlinks...
     
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    Perhaps, but that is probably not a current number, but a holdover from earlier Google practices. This quote from Matt is only one month old. He seems to be saying that any webpage can go well over 100K, even up to close to 500K, before it runs the risk of that page being "truncated", thereby leaving off the bottom of the page. 500K would allow a ton of links on a sitemap page.
     
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    #12
    A sitemap is limited to 50,000 entries (50k). Sure Matt Cutts said Google caches the first 500kb of each page but that's unrelated. ;)
     
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    one site of mine has like 8000 internal links in the site map . and google only index like 150 of them.. but i did no promotion for that site i did not add it to any directory.. i just made the web site made the sitemap and let it like that to see as a test how long will take and how many pages will index google:p in 2 months only 150 of them:D still waiting:p
     
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    I've heard the 50k (links/pages) myself on many occassions, however, somehow you can have sitemaps point to other sitemaps or multiple sitemaps. I am unsure how it is done, but there is a way around the 50k...
     
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    Hmm, I don't recall ever reading that. I would be interested if you have a source? It doesn't make sense to me SEO-wise. "50,000 entries" is light years bigger than the first "50K" of a page being cached.
     
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    I'll go with live-cms on this. Dont know where I read it either, but seen it many times coming from some good resources. So, my sitemap is 49,900 entries. (pages). Yes, it is "light years" bigger! Mine is 4,130kb.
     
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    #17
    I mean XML sitemaps, not html sitemaps. Like this - http://www.keywordsdatabase.com/sitemap.xml

    You can have 50,000 URLs in an XML sitemap because they are treated completely differently to normal pages which only have the first 500kb cached.
     
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    Yes, there are two different terms being used in this post — sitemap.html and sitemap.xml.

    In the quote above, Matt Cutts was speaking about webpages in general, which would include your sitemap.html. He said that Google has upped to "half a megabyte" what they will save from each page. So, unlike the supposed former 100-link maximum on html pages, they will now cache about "half a megabyte" of your html pages, which would include your html sitemap. The sitemap.xml is an entirely different issue and was not the subject of Matt's interview discussion.
     
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    #19
    I realize we are both on different topics but the OP didn't specify which. Diablos was pointing out the 50k figure allowed in a sitemap.xml (I think).
     
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