American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

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  1. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    #461
    Facts? Very questionable when I dont believe in that religion. I thought you would know that being an Atheist.

    The 2nd line from the anti muslim basher says it all for me

    There is that buzz word again....

    How about a credibal source Will rather than using an Anti-Muslim website?
     
    cormac, Jan 18, 2008 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #462
    How about arguing facts instead of making a baseless ad hominem attack against the web site?
     
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  3. cormac

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    #463
    How about you re-read what I posted.

    Very strange for an Atheist to believe in Muslim/relgious facts (or their existance) unless you are soley driven on being anti-muslim, my guess.

    I ask you Will, are you anti-muslim?
     
    cormac, Jan 18, 2008 IP
  4. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #464
    will spencer has proved time and again that he is anti-Muslim, an Islamophobiac.

    And anyone who opposes will is anti-semetic, racist, or ad hominem. He has mastered the art of lying.

    It is good that he does not have any credibility left on this forum after his lies and twisted facts have been debunked hundreds of times.
     
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  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #465
    Five Big Lies Muslims Tell

    First of all, their Quran does not mention Jerusalem even once, meaning their claim to Israel?s capital as their “third holiest” city is fraudulent and aimed at stealing the city from the Jews.

    Secondly they adamantly assert that the “Palestinians” comprise a nation — although they have no national history — and that Israel has to give Judea, Samaria and Gaza “back” to these “Palestinians” — although those lands have never been under Muslim rule.

    Thirdly, they claim the Jews occupy Arab lands, when in fact the Arabs are the occupiers in the Middle East — they belong in Arabia and have no right to Egypt, Syria, Jordan or Lebanon. Judea, Samaria and Gaza is not Israeli-occupied territory but Arab-occupied territory.

    Fourthly, they proclaim that Islam is a religion of peace, when Islam was established by the edge of the sword; when Muslims are involved in almost every war on the planet; and when Muslims introduced terrorism as we know it today to the world, and are responsible for almost all terrorist attacks in the world.

    Fifthly, they repeat ad nauseum that they want to live in peace with Israel when an overwhelming mountain of both factual and circumstantial evidence proves that their unaltered aim and goal is to destroy the Jewish state.

    http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/five-big-lies-muslims-tell/
     
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  6. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #466
    Wow! Impressive source.:rolleyes:

    I know bogart you are angry because you lost friends in 911 attacks. But I didn't do it, I don't condone it, neither do my people. But you continue to target my people, my religion, by brothers in faith.

    You are really very disgusting. :mad:
     
    gauharjk, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    ala101 Well-Known Member

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    #467
    It has been mentioned in Quran a lot of times ! here is one of them :
    Quran, Chapter 17, verse 1
    That's a big history lie !
    this is also a joke, we are Arabs, Jordan and palestine are both arab countries in history and now.
    do you know how many non-muslims have been killed within the whole life of prophet Mohammad pbuh ?

    what is happening now in Gaza is so clear that those israeli people are killing innocents everyday with no mercy.

    this small book answers these 5 points with explanations :
    REPLIES TO THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS ASKED BY NON-MUSLIMS
     
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  8. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #468
    A nice answer. :)

    Thank you friend.

    The book you have given here http://www.irf.net/book2.zip is a really wonderful book. I had read it about a year ago. Thank you for sharing it here.
     
    gauharjk, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    ala101 Well-Known Member

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    #469
    always welcome gauharjk !
    the truth is always there when we look for it :)
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #470

    Will is probably has more right to an opinion on the subject than any of us. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with what you seem to think...

    You've kinda over stepped the reach of your knowledge on this one.. Again.:eek:
     
    Mia, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    #471
    Bogart. Are you anti-Muslim?
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #472
    Can someone explain this new PC term to me? WTF is "anti-Muslim"???
     
    Mia, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    #473
    the correct PC term is islamophobic I thought.

    It means that you know something about islam that they don't want you to know.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ah, gotcha.. Thank you.. Sometimes I am so behind on the newer cultural vernacular...
     
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    #475
    I'm not angry over 911. I also didn't loose any friends in the attack.

    Now that's get to the facts. Muslims continue to target New Yorkers for terrorist attacks. The blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman has told his followers to kill non-muslim New Yorkers if he dies in jail. Who is the blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman?

    The blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman spent three years in Egyptian jails for issuing a fatwa resulting in the 1981 assassination of Anwar Sadat by Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Abdel-Rahman was also a know associate of Bin Laden and the leader of Al Qaeda's internation wing.

    Even though Abdel-Rahman was listed on a US State Department terrorist watch list, he was issued a tourist visa to visit the US.

    Abdel-Rahman preached in three mosques in the New York City area. Abdel-Rahman followers were responsible for the World Trade Center 1993 bombings and the shooting death of Meir Kahane.

    Rahman has been convicted of issuing a fatwa calling for terrorist attacks in the New York and New Jersey metropolitan area. The most startling plan was to set off five bombs in 10 minutes, blowing up the United Nations, the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the George Washington Bridge and a federal building housing the FBI.
     
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    #476
    I've been wondering that too. What is an anti-Muslim?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #478
    Historical facts are separate from religious belief. For example, I believe that Jesus existed -- but that doesn't make me a Christian.

    Whatever that means!

    I am against executing people for being gay. I am against executing people for having sex outside of wedlock. I am against executing women for the crime of being raped. I am against murdering people for speaking their minds. I am against forcing religious practices on anyone by any means of coercion.

    Does that make me anti-Muslim?

    So then you have no arguments against the facts?
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #479
    I guess I am something.. I seem to be against those things too...
     
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    #480
    Muslims have to take a look at themselves and their actions of violence and intolerance.
     
    bogart, Jan 19, 2008 IP
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