I'm sorry I just had to make this thread. I spoke with Rob and he agreed. I cannot believe some things I see on the internet these days and this was another one of them. The issue in discussion is that http://www.avantlinks.com/ has ripped/copied/stolen a lot of the design and code from http://www.alivedirectory.com. For those less tech-able amongst us, I'll post some stuff to some it all up. --------------------------- Search button for alive directory - here Search button of our new friend - here Background image used for alive directory - here Background image used for our "custom" bid directory - here Next we have the layout itself. The gray/white content overlapping the blue header was unique for alivedirectory. Yet our new bid directory has pretty much copied the idea. Finally we have the "logo". Funny how they both use the same orange isnt it.... Next we have theft from another site. The owner has copied the bid amount background shown here http://www.avantlinks.com/link/Holiday-Directory.3.html from here http://www.pickdirectory.com/link/63.html ---------------------------- Next we will get the questions who is the owner. Well the site is owned by an established member - called "WatchOut" I contacted him after I saw his reply in this post here where he advertises his "custom" design. He says his design was not a rip and is unique. If I was you I would WatchOut and re-pay your "designer" to design a UNIQUE template in future. Its nice to see you went to the effort of making a unique design as very few bother, but its a shame to see this from a "reputable" DP member. Well I shall leave it to your vote. Is the design a rip or not? I know 2 other people who agree with me. For those that dont care, you can buy some links from him here.
This creation can be termed "Inspired" if it links back to Alive as: Inspired by Alive Web Directory. This creation can be termed "Ripped Off" if it doesn't link back Alive and the owner says its Unique. ...So the answer is obvious here atm.
Mike...in all honesty i do agree with you. And you can tell it publicly that i was the second person along with Rob, that you are talking about here. Since i came across this link on my thread, so i had to see the design. However, for the line in bold....i did buy a link before i talked to you. LOL...Excuse me for that.... I was actually just buying the link on all those directories on a HIGH SPEED. For the design....yes it's a shame. I will agree that it's a complete Rip Off!
I've seen designers selling very similar templates in the "template" section here @ DP. They are "knock-offs". However, the bid amount background from pickdirectory.com is identical.
Thanks, I will request a re design immediately. I am sad to see this, however I can assure you my requests were made custom, and I paid a fair amount for the design and the coding bit, I suppose I could get a complete re design. If you however, provided this through pm I wouldn't defend the design, but you just said things and I did not bother to check it up. Thanks for making it clear though, I don't want to see my name published like this, because I am not the guy to do this. EDIT: iPod, I don't know if you have seen me, but I have been in this biz for a long time now, long enough to share wisdom with the rest, do you honestly think I am stupid enough to ask for a rip off? I paid for it but don't worry the template will be removed and never used in any directory, and will request a immediate re-design that has no connections with alive. iPod, I see no submission from you? - Meti
I think avantlinks.com and pickdirectory.com is the same owner, see the DNS http://www.w3tool.com/whois/?u=avantlinks.com http://www.w3tool.com/whois/?u=pickdirectory.com Bidding background is not a good fact IMO
Look up the owners. I host pick directory, for the records dtm, is one of my best friends here. I suppose the coding part was done using his images, as the PSD that was made for me, didnt include such image. - Meti
I would say that there are more similarities than not and if they are "inspired" by a few sites do a better job of making the site unique.
One domain with WhoisGuard, so there is no clue. But DNS is same! However, I like your first post. Fair enough
I think that's it then! Glad you agree and are ready for redesign! But curious to know....whom did you get this design from...Who is that designer....at least that way we will keep ourself off from copycats
Looks like you are targeting me! Anyways, Firstly, you should clear the concept that we are talking about the design rip off and not your reputation or nature. i agree that you have been in business for long and i know you are not stupid. But design did came as same to alive...So.... Secondly... You see no submissions from me.... I do not suffer from short termed memory loss sweety! If i said i made a submission, then i mean it! Check out your paypal: ID: 48757389LK454663U Bid for ****** on Avant Links (If that's not you, then tell me about it) You need your mail ID as well? For proof? All accepted, but this really pissed me off! Huh? EDIT: I wonder who submitted this!
Even more sad to *SEE*. All I can say. I'm pretty sure you will make changes now, but what's so bothersome, is that people like yourself do this on a constant and consistent basis, and leave things be, until they are outed. It's sad... truly sad.
let me make one thing clear. i own the following sites. www.pickdirectory.com www.linkbidding.eu and one thing what is very important to me is this. if you guys even knew one thing about watchout he is one of the most helpful people and honnest to the bone. and let me tell you one thing mikey, i have my tought about you. and let me tell you they are not good, you are bitching a lot of people down. playing for god of the directories. everytime you see a change to beat some competition down you grab it with both hands. it would be nice to see you help others instead of beating people down. and you off all persons cant be the one telling others it is a copy off. http://www.zorg-links.com/submit.html http://www.realwd.com/keywords/buy.html dont they look the same to you. for a fact i know you have send a email to watchout about the design. from that moment he is busy trying to contact the designer to get it redesigned. he never likes copycats and hi is real sick about this happening. you dont even give him the change to get it redesigned. it would be have shown you off as a gentleman if you hade give him let say 24 hours to get things redesigned and coded.
No iPod, I wasn't targeting you not in a offensive manner, sorry if it sounded like it though. I only see four bids made, all by one user but it seems like there is some bug with phpLB, on the adminCP i only have four bids registered, although on my paypal I see you did go through with the payment. Which was the URL you submitted with? Sorry, my appologizes.
Honestly, i did feel offended with that. Particularly, because your message came after i did say that's it's okay that you are going with redesign! Submission thing definitely added as a catalyst for me to get angry on you! Anyways, apology accepted! Have PM'ed you the details again!