Some info on Barack Obama, that you might not know

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #41
    I can't believe that in this day and age people actually believe what is in spam emails

    hey simplyg what's your email? I think I may have some special offers to send you
     
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  2. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #42
    How many times must i say this, they were not my views, i know nothing of the man except the look in his eyes that creeps me out. Please dont associate that spam email to my view on obama.

    I only posted it to address the issues with the truth.
     
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  3. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #43
    The look in his eyes that creeps you out? ... You may want to seek professional help for that problem.
     
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  4. northpointaiki

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    #44
    But they sure seemed to be your views, Simply. It didn't seem you were asking a question, but making a statement. Among others, saying:

    Is a statement of fact. Wrong, from all that can be told, but a statement of fact, not a question.

    You responded to the man's Christianity with:

    You responded to a reply, again pointing you to the answers you were looking for, with:

    and

    So - that is like saying, I heard the President was a serial killer - you know, guy called it out the window on the way to work today. Yeah, yeah - I know there's lots of stuff out there to show whether he is or isn't, but I'm feeling too lazy to look it up, so I believe it. (Further proof, by the way, you weren't asking a question but already drew a conclusion).

    If you are frustrated with members for calling you into question, imagine the frustration of some, certainly this member, seeing someone stating the above, but refusing to look up the information asked for and provided to dispel the myth.

    If you want to be taken seriously, provide facts, and stand by facts in debate.
     
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  5. amiecn

    amiecn Well-Known Member

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    #45
    propaganda indeed...low low low

    it's a shame people are trying to pass this off as truth :mad:
     
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  6. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #46
    You know what, if you want to throw all of my statements out of context to bring me down, it must make you a pretty sad person. I said several times that they weren't my views and if you cant get that from reading this thread, then you are no better than me, so jump off your pedestal. I asked two questions, that you dodged and weaved, and yes when someone said something i didn't agree with or wanted more info on, i questioned it.

    I did refuse to look elsewhere reason being, i asked you two question, each could be answered with either, yes, no, or i don't know. I shouldn't have to read several statements to get a one word answer. And so you know, I did review those threads and statements, and neither answered my questions. So i wasted my time anyway.

    Everyone seems to be under the impression i posted this as fact, i posted this as a topic too look at. To be honest, obama would definitely get my vote over Hilliary.
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #47
    reminds me of all the ron paul propaganda...
     
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  8. northpointaiki

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    #48

    Look, Simply, these are your words, not mine, and I took nothing out of "context." You can't "I'll believe until proven otherwise" and "I don't believe it, just a subject for discussion" at the same time.

    I dodged nothing - you did. I provided you with all the information you requested, and you refused to use it; As a presumed Christian yourself, in effect you judged the man a non-Christian, although he declares and in his deeds verifies himself to be, so people drew their conclusions accordingly. You also called me a coward. By the way, I referred you to 3 things - which "neither" of the three didn't answer your questions? I don't understand this statement. That's like saying "Of the following three options, options 1, 2 or 3, which do you most agree with?" and answering with "neither."


    If you have a problem with what you received in response, you may want to look at what you do to bring it on.
     
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  9. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #49

    My words yes, but only in response to false statements, for example the only reason i said
    was because someones else said this

    which was not what the email claimed, i just corrected him, i didn't say it was my view.

    When i received this "well known email hoax" that i have never heard of before, i did take it as interesting, i saw it as unbelievable, which is why i opened it here for debate, not because i believed it, i even stated atleas 3 times that it was not my view.

    I did not judge obama, i addressed his claim to Christianity, it was from my knowledge of him, only his word. Yes i compared it to Hitler, but only to demonstrate what a mans word is worth.

    What do i do to bring on these responses, when i posted repeatedly it was not my view? Those that responded associating me as one who believes these allegations, are those that did not read the whole thread.

    You have been pretty involved in this thread, so i dont know what your excuse is. I have personally told you these aren't my views, and that i just wanted to know the answer to two questions. Also, i even submitted to you that the email was nothing but a hoax, i took your word for it, and what did you say? you said you didnt care, and you continued to reticule me. Why? i gave in. I submitted to you. So by your continuing this already over debate, i figure you just like to talk to people like your better than them, and i guess that ,makes you feel better.
     
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  10. northpointaiki

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    #50
    Good lord, Simply.

    No, I don't enjoy this. But if you continue to insist on things that aren't true, in my mind, by what transpires on the page, then, yes, I will address that, and very directly.

    By the way "ridicule" triggered something. In going back to another thread, with a poster that sounds very much like you, I note that you and SB1234 appear to be the same person - sharing the same "your political source" signature/webpage (http://www.politicalplanet.info/). If this is you, then you have said this kind of thing in the past - that you are being ridiculed, in effect:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=534312&highlight=figurative&page=48

    (It's "ridicule," as you wrote then, by the way, and not "reticule").

    And ALSO by the way - if indeed it's you - you are aware, if I have it right, that it's against DP policy to have a duplicate account?

    I again say, if the facts presented to you bring you to feel ridiculed in some way, I'd urge you to look what you post. I didn't refer to you as a coward, as you did me - I stayed with facts, to my knowledge, and it is those facts that you seem to have an issue with.
     
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  11. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #51
    What am i insisting on thats not true, i dont believe the email, i admited i didnt feel like reading other threads to get a one word answer, i dont see whats wrong with that, i see it as my choice.

    Now you accuse me of having dup accounts? I will give you this, its a great observation, sb1234 is my best friend and business partner, many people here on dp have the same type of relationship, he also seems to spell better than i do. But check the ip's we are not the same person. You know its people like you that made him delete DP from his favorites section.

    Its so sad, i sit here and tell you i dont believe something, and you try to convince me and everyone witenssing this thread that i do. I dont believe it. Now get over it please.
     
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  12. northpointaiki

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    #52
    Re dupe - apologies. It just struck me as curious that this specific issue about feeling "ridiculed" has come up before, and I sincerely thought this was you in the other thread. Particularly, when the same website and signature is in place, and the names "123" and "1234" are used. But I do apologize.

    I am over it as well, Simply. But I do wonder why you would have a question why anyone, at best, would wonder what you truly believe when you say on the one hand you don't believe the hoax, and on the other, you do. Again, did you, or did you not say:

    ?
     
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  13. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #53

    North, that was before you opened my eyes, through out the thread i realized its just propaganda, and thats what i have been telling you, i thought when i officailly submitted to your views you would have understood that.
     
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  15. RedXer

    RedXer Peon

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    #55
    Simplyg,

    Incase no one has answered the yes or no your looking for;

    No he did not attend a wahabi school, it was just a public school with no religious affiliation. It was fox news that reported he attended a muslim extremist school without verifying it. All the other news networks actually tried to verify it and found out it was a false claim, even sent reporters to the school, and fox news issued a retraction/apology.

    No is he not a muslim, if I remember correctly he was raised catholic but has been attending the same protestant church in chicago for a few decades now.
     
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  16. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #56
    Thanks for the info REDXER, i actually read about that this morning. Its pretty sad so much rubbish gets thrown around as truth, makes it really hard for an honest person to choose the appropriate candidate. You dont know whats true and whats merely propaganda
     
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  17. northpointaiki

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    northpointaiki, Jan 16, 2008 IP