Same C Class IP, is that Bad?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by gamefray, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. #1
    The problem is, I used the same hosting company for all 10 of my blogs. I built the for the purpose of cross linking and building links. But they all have the same C Class IP. Does this mean none of the backlinks I am bulding will count towards PR and increasing SERP's?
     
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  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    As a general rule, google will discount (ignore) these links. If you are too aggressive and google views you as a link farm, they can give you a penalty.
     
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    #3
    You would be better off on 10 diff class C IP's and dont link to all the others. Also if you are using any ad revenue that could identify all 10 as you, may want to mix that up as well. If your adsense pubid is on all 10 sites, thats a give away its you :)
     
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  4. gamefray

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    They are all herbal treatment related. So on each blog, how many of my other blogs should I link out to? Also, I will post on each blog 10 times a month. So that would be a total of 90 possible backlinks a month for each blog. Would that be considered spamming?
     
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    johneva Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Yeah I think you have wasted your time there, billding 10 blogs just for cross linking and building links is a real bad idea anyways, you should make sites because they have a real pupose for visitors.

    As you have them all on the same IP then the links between each blog will only serve any use as directing traffic from blog to blog, but if you have only made them for that reason then I dont see them being any good as your not going to put any time and effort into them so why would I use a link to another ones of your blogs?

    You have made a bad move there IMO but what ever keeps you happy fella.
     
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  6. gamefray

    gamefray Peon

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    Its not just for backlinks. There will be topic specific, unique and informative posts on every blog every 3 days. I am just concerned that the backlinks will have ZERO impact on improving PR and SERP's.
     
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    Have you noticed any changes in the traffic as the sites were crosslinked? This might help you evaluate if its hurting or not. I know my provider keeps 12 months of Awstats, so with that and wayback machine, you could see if the links changed traffic.... Just an idea.
     
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  8. gamefray

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    They are brand new. Less then a month old.

    Also, this is a good post on using the same C Class IP's
     
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  9. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    That's actually a bad post. What google said it that virtual hosted vs. dedicated links are treated the same but they aren't talking about the same owner crosslinking their sites. The google patent comes right out and talks about owners cross linking their sites - it's not an unbiased "vote" for a site, which google wants.

    The same class "c" only makes it obvious to google, but they also are a register and check whois data, and as another poster said, the ad id to weed out these links.

    At best, the links will count for nothing. At worse, google will give you a penalty.

    If the links are for traffic, not manipulating the SERPS, a couple of cross links aren't going to get you in trouble with google - they just won't be counted. If you need to cross link all the sites, I would make them "nofollow" so you don't get in trouble for being a link farm. Google isn't stupid.
     
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    Do you have the source for that when Google said it?
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Search for the google patents on their search engine algorithms and read through them. I can tell you from years of experience that cross linking of sites, especially on the same ip, is asking for trouble. Google's algorithm is built around ranking sites that get unbiased links - while it's impossible to weed out all paid links, what you are attempting to do has been a big no no for at least 2-3 years and is nothing short of waving a big red flag.

    Do you really think google wants to give a ranking boost to someone who builds 10 sites and links them all together? Matt Cutts even stated that google knows someone with one of two sites has a lot better chance of having a quality of site vs. someone who owns 10 sites - again google uses the whois data and other data (like adsense code) to help them with what they rank and don't.
     
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  12. gamefray

    gamefray Peon

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    mjewel, I get what you are saying. But I have not found a article, interview, or anything else to confirm that. People seem to be on both sides of the argument, and it is hard to figure out whats real and not real.
     
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    What if I just link 1-3 together?
     
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    if the backlinks are from same ip class, google will ignore those backlinks
     
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    As I mentioned in my previous post.

    - If your sites hosted same class C. You MUST NOT interlinking across among them or your sites may be penalty.

    - If you prefer to cross interlinking between them, you have to hosted your site in different class C ip hosting.

    :D hope this help
     
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    rivermember123456 Banned

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    you can link them if they are related together
     
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    Man, I just learned about this, and it is really cramping my style now.
     
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    Good to hear that. I can say because I have been experienced with this type of penalty on my 15 sites by cross linking between them in the same host. :D When I was a newbie in SEO, I made a lot of mistakes and that is a case. Just 2 days after interlinking, all of my sites ranking are dumped to 8xx place. I don't know if there are same penalty these day.
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Interlinking your own sites is dangerous as they will get penalized if google detects them. Google may detect ownership even if they're on different IP addresses.
     
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    Either way, it seems way too dangerous to attempt. I wish they would change that rule.
     
    gamefray, Jan 12, 2008 IP