Do you think that if we invested all the money and resources we have put into Iraq into research and development of new energy resources (Hydrogen powered cars, hybrids, ethanol, etc.) we would have found away around this oil problem?
no...it actually costs more to produce ethanol than to refine oil...and cars that use it suffer not only a loss in HP but a loss in MPG as well.
All we have to do is legalize Hemp, and it would revolutionize our agricultural industry. Hemp is supposedly a better source of ethanol than corn. And a much hardier crop.
Ethanol reduces horsepower? Most things I have read state it raises it, ethanol afterall is used in race cars I guess it depends of course if it's an engine that is built for ethanol or not, just as the newer cars get much better mielage on ethanol blends than older cars. I still prefer non blended, but facts are facts and fiction is fiction. http://www.drivingethanol.org/motorsports/racing_fuel_characteristics.aspx
wrong...more power out of the fuel depends on what the car is designed to take, not what you put in it. http://au.answers.yahoo.com/answers2/frontend.php/question?qid=20071201090952AAkvvpg And another article: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=49771/pageId=37801
d16 you quoted 'octane' articles, not the formula octane is not the formula of fuel, you do know this do you not? It is the flash point of the fuel... -- I also did state As a whole though from my limited understanding ethanol will produce more Horse power --- some info on octane http://www.state.mn.us/mn/externalDocs/Commerce/Gasoline_Octane_Facts_102902052227_OctaneFacts.pdf
you do know that e85 has an octane rating, right? Are you seriously this uneducated? Despite your attempts to act like you know? http://www.agriculture.state.ia.us/e85q&a.html
You do know not all 'reformulated' blends are e85 do you not? You also did not mention e85 above. Where I am from I can buy ethanol blends with regular, mid, or high octane ratings. LOL d16 yet you have the nerve to rip on me. Go get that education will you? --- BTW speaking of 'education' you need or should have an e85 designed car, a flex fuel vehicle to even run e85. Guess what? The engine is built for it! Give me a break.
there is only one e85 available in SC....ethanol blends and e85 are two different things...it seems to me that you have yet to respond to the fact I proved you wrong about octane ratings giving you more hp. That was the origin of your post (you questioned that ethanol reduces hp)...since ethanol has a higher octane rating that non-ethanol gas (Whether a blend or e85), I produced two articles that show that higher octane rated gases (of which ethanol blends and e85 are a part of that category) do not necessarily produce more hp. you have yet to refute that, but instead are trying to change the subject to make it look like I do not know what I am talking about. I drive a car that excepts e85, have done my research, and will gladly prove you wrong time after time. However, right now I must go, as my daughter needs to eat before we put her down for the night..
You only stated ethanol, you did NOT state e85 until later! You did not prove me wrong. You came back with octane levels when we were discussing ethanol blends. Here where I live I can get low grade 87 octane ethanol blend, all the way up to premium, or I can get e85 and other mixes. I can get standard octane levels WITH ETHANOL which totally destroys the limited point you had. INCORRECT, I can get 87 octane and up here, it is the norm in Wisconsin of ETHANOL BLEND. It is the SAME octane ratings! d16 this is laughable I am not changing anything. You talked about 'ethanol' on itself, I brought up and you brought up 'unless the car is built for it' guess what in order to run e85 you need a car built for e85! You can try to run it without but good luck on that. A car built for e85 is going to be designed for that octane level, octane is not an issue as it's what the car is built for! Of course running a car on too high of an octane can be an issue, you are the one deflecting and trying to change the subject. Yet again you are totally caught with your pants down but you're too damn dumb to even see it or admit it. You have NEVER proven me wrong d16, not even on the 'fair tax' thread where I made you look like a total idiot. BTW I thought I was on ignore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 Of course it depends on if the engine is built for it. That's like saying jet fuel is crap because a car that is not designed for it wont run on it. E85 is relatively new, it is getting better every year. I myself do not like it, but ethanol in an engine that is built for it will in some cases bring more horsepower. Unlike your claim of 'less horse power' because of it being ethanol. Seriously I think you get dumber each and every day.
Absolutely. I don't think there's any doubt that we could power this country without oil. The technology is there, it's just too many people are getting too rich the way things are to change.