Should the Aussie team stop playing DIRTY mind games?

Discussion in 'Games' started by Naughty Son, Jan 4, 2008.

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Do you feel the Australian cricket team is crossing the limits of decency?

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  2. No

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  1. #1
    The whole world knows that the Aussie cricket team is very smart at sledging. For the most part, the opponents have remainded silent - right from Amla being labelled a'terrorist' to Muralidharan being labelled a 'chucker'. It is really tough on the opponents when someone stands near you and says how you and people from your country smell or calls you names that involves your family.
    The Indian team seem to be giving some back to the Australian team. The irony is that when the aussies admit they are involved in 'gamesmanship' and 'mental disintegration', the response that comes from other teams are claimed to be 'racist'. Do you think that it is time for the Aussies to stopm these dirty games and prove to the world that they can win matches with talent and not with sledging? Thanks.
     
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  2. contentedge

    contentedge Active Member

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    It's okay to sledge in a game. After all, it's a passionate game and such problems are bound to surface. But, the end result is what matters the most. If the Australians sledge, and if you give it back to them, whoop their bowlers all over the park and win the test match, it's great. But if you keep losing matches with/without sledging and then complain, you'll be termed a sore loser.

    Let me ask you - if England did the same thing, would you have complained? I don't think so. Coz you know you are better than England and beat them any day. But since it's the Australians who do this, we get worried. The reason is - we know deep down inside that we're not good enough to beat the Australians consistently. So, whatever reason we get to justify our loss, we grab on to it.

    I'm not saying Australia is a gentle team, but they play only smash-mouth cricket. If you want to put them off, the best way to do that would be to win matches consistently against them, not by sledging back or by complaining.
     
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  3. acash

    acash Peon

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    i think aussies are trying to distract iccc to help them get ahead
     
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  4. Naughty Son

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    There is also speculation as to whether the Australian team is trying to use Andrew Symonds wrongly to make racist allegations. There was this guy joking on television that a 'hello' to Symonds could be called racist abuse. Thanks.
     
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  5. Rohit patel

    Rohit patel Prominent Member

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    I think so because they are not playing honest game and we can easily see Saymonds, Ponting, Clark stay on pitch despite of big inside edge in the match. So how can umpire ask those people who is not honest.
     
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  6. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    So Mr H. Singh calling Symonds a monkey when Australia was playing in India is the example that all other teams should follow? It is so very convenient to "forget" when Indians say racist remarks isn't it? Did you see any of the Australian crowd with racist or degoratary banners against any of the Indian Team? Have you forgotten the Indian crowd monkey chants and banners when Australia was playing there? Here's a reminder: [​IMG]

    Talking about sledging and attitude on the Cricket field, remember this guy when Australia was playing in India: [​IMG] - You appear to have forgotten his unsportsman like behaviour - the very thing you are accusing the Australians.

    So easy to play the victim isn't it.



     
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  7. delusion

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    bit hypocritical?
     
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  8. Naughty Son

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    It also sound strange when the pioneers of sledging and racism are complaining when a man from the land of sensitive people said to have responded. It is also true that they used more sophisticated words like gamesmanship and mental-disintegration for the same acts.
     
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  9. warley

    warley Peon

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    The best way to respond to Australia is to do to them what they have been doing to other teams for years that is how England won the ashes in 2005.

    Although it is a difficult task to do that in Australia India will have a great chance of revenge when the aussies tour India next.
     
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    netjobs Banned

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    At last justice came out in a quick time... Bucknor is sacked and Harbhajan is back to the next test... now pls the Aussie supporters shutup and go for other works...
     
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  11. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    Actually Australia would have won if McGrath had not rolled his ankle just before the test Match from where they failed. Also using Jason Gillespie afterwards was a FAIL move they kept making. Some of us did watch the entire Ashes series you know.


    In regards to Australia touring India, the sad fact is that even if this incident did not occur, Symond's would still be taunted by the Indian Crowd. The Indians would talk in their native tongue and make fun of him or say degoratory stuff about the Australians on the field. We have already seen the sportmanship when they failed to rein in the conduct of some of their players multiple times when Australia was there last. At least the Australian crowd have been supportive of the Indians here.


     
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    I suspect Claudek is hired by Ponting. Claudek, you reputation is now tarnished and most of the forums members think that you are hired by A board to post ridiculous comments and try to improve the dipping honor and pride of Australia. Well words my friend are less important than actions.

    If you really want to save the dipping honor, pride and reputation of your country then tell your team to apologize to our team and we will just let you off as Mahatma Gandhi did to others.

    Don't forget that more than 90% of people outside Australia considers Australians as uncivilized, overly aggressive, barbarous, crabbed, cranky, crotchety, damaging, dangerous, crooked, debauch, debauched, decadent, deficient, deleterious, ferocious, grim, heartless, implacable, inclement, indomitable, demean, racist, mortal, nasty, pitiless, sadistic, savage, tyrannical, unscrupulous, vindictive, denigrate, detrimental, devilish, disagreeable and obscure (data by fox poll 2006)

    Just a suggestion, please do something!
     
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  13. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    Oddly enough, it appears you know how to use a thesaurus. Congratulations.

    I see you did not like the actual proofs I put in regarding some bad sportmanship by Indians. I found it hypocritical for Indians to claim racism, when it was there for the entire world to see that they are not saints either.

    Do I back Ponting in all he does, not really. I prefered Steve Waugh's captaincy to Ponting's style. I have already said that on record in another thread previously.

    Please, tell me, which of my comments did you see as being ridiculous?

     
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  14. delusion

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    Really ironic considering you just posted about 20 words meaning the same thing trying to defame Australia.

     
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  15. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    Ozzies have an attitude, thats called : win-at-all-cost-no-matter-what.

    Anyone remember the underarm bowling episode here?
     
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    daniegb123 Banned

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    Whats an Ozzie? Perhaps you mean Aussie? - So we win at all costs eh? Can you please prove your theory?
     
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    coco275 Peon

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    All teams need to play the "Gilchrist" rule. That's when he walked after the umpire said he wasn't out. Several players have walked after they knew they were out and I think Border even called a batsman back. Can anyone confirm that?

    In any case, teams and especially the Captains need to up the honesty stakes and play to the spirit of the game.

    IDEA: The umpires should use the 3rd Umpire to rule on controversial calls more. Possibly, if a Captain wants to dispute a decision (like in USA football), they can. They can have two calls (or a "challenge) every 10 overs. If they get it right with a 3rd umpire agreeing to the challenge, then the player goes out. If the challenge is wrong, then fielding team is penalised 6 or 10 runs.

    Thoughts anyone?
     
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  20. The Webmaster

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    Dunno, but you seem the only one who isn't able to see that all the views expressed in that article are coming from Australians (Ozzies)...
     
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