Leopard and the Apple notebooks are the main reason why this year. If all the ducks line up.. SSD, Quad Core, 4GB Ram, Wireless N, WiMax, USB3, NVidia 8800, etc.. if this all gets into a Mac book pro, then sign me up! I'll be skipping Vista for a loooong time! If I want to run MS apps or other apps. Theres always Vmware Fusion
Yeah, but Vmware Fusion and all of those other programs aren't nearly as efficient as just using Vista or XP. Apple notebooks have come a long way, but they are still missing some features for "intense" gaming that companies like Alienware and Vigor Gaming offer (ie. SLi).
This is true you can duplicate the efficiency you get when running an actualy microsoft OS for certain programs
That's true, but I'd far rather just run a Windows machine right now instead of having to switch OSes multiple times per day. When the majority of programs are compatible with Apple (ie. most Open-Source apps, Plug-Ins and other useful little Apps), I will take a serious look at crossing platforms but until that happens I don't want to deal with the inefficiency.
Go to sorceforge.net and look up half of the projects, for the vast majority of them you will find support for XP/Vista and none for OS X. By a smaller, third party plug-in for a program supported by OS X and tell me how much success you find installing it (an example would be one of the many plug-ins for Dreamweaver). Look for many common Anti-Virus programs and tell me how much success you have finding more than a couple that support Vista. To the best of my knowledge Norton SystemWorks doesn't support OS X, so you're out of luck there too. Is that enough non-complaint programs there, or would you like me to give you some more?
I was actually asking cuz I develop for the osx And antivirus... Please read the thread, nobody bothers making a virus that affects 1-2% of the people. Why not spare yourself some trouble and go for the 90% with a much easier to create virus? (the numbers 1-2% and 90% are off the top off my head and are wrong). PS. If you do switch to mac and find yourself in need of a handy app, give me ring and I will make it for you
I actually considered switching, but they're pretty expensive and didn't want to go through the hassle. Also, just because macs have a small market share doesn't mean that someone won't create a virus one day, and not running an AVP leaves you vulnerable. I remember Apple recommending that all their users use AVPs, but can't come up with a quote, so that one could be wrong.
Never used Mac a lot in my lifetime and I like Windows OS, I would say the true competition is with Linux and Windows. Linux has the smallest % of market share, but considering it is open source, it hasn't done bad has it?
Windows Vista using WindowsBlinds and ObjectDock: I've got my Vista setup just the way I want it. Windows Blinds, Object Dock, Object Bar and Drive Clone to replace Windows Restore (which is horrible). I had more than a few crashes which were probably due to an incorrect firewall setup. I think I fixed the problem but if it happens again I think I will go out and get a little mac mini (I might get one anyway). Program compatibility is probably the big hurdle. Niche Inspector Keyword Elite Good Keywords Seo Elite TrueCrypt (For Making Encryped Volumes) Paint.Net CoffeeCup Website Fonts CoffeeCup SiteMap Maker Article Post Robot XboxFriends (notification)... I can go on forever about all the programs I won't be able to use on the mac but if push comes to shove I probably can do without them. Anyway, the thing that interests me most in a Mac is that it uses less resources and there aren't thousands of little bots trying to break into them. I'd just love to switch over to a unix system and OS X looks like the best candidate but I don't have a real reason to do so. At this point buying a mac mini would just be an impulse buy.
Why? Because I already have a PC. A Mac would be my second computer and at first I didn't really like the mac's price point. It looks like Leopard but that doesn't mean it runs like Leopard. It's still Windows underneath. That means I can run all those programs I mentioned in my previous post.
From a price point, I suppose you could buy a PC and a Mac so you can run all your PC stuff on your Mac, er.. I mean PC.. Well you could run all your PC stuff on your PC and on your Mac, and all your Mac stuff on your Mac.. So why buy the PC? Like I said, why buy an imitation when you can have the real thing?
The problem is that I already made the mistake. I bought my PC before leopard even came out. If I knew I could dual boot then I probably would have just bought a mac. I could still buy a MAC but I don't like the prices. I was looking into buying a mac mini 2 GB Ram 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 160GB HD $899 That seems like a good price but it's not really. My HP Pavillion is basically the same and it was only: $650 That's a $250 difference for the same PC. It doesn't make any since to me.
so if I'm understanding this correctly, you like Macs GUI but agrees you can't run half the programs you like on it, so you really run Windows but with everything configured to look like a Mac. If this works for you and you get the best of both worlds, why not just stick with this setup instead of running into all the software compatibility issues that will come hand in hand with getting a Mac.
I paid $500 for my mini, then bought the RAM from OWC, was like another $50 or so... FYI, look at CDW next time around Good luck..
So you opened up your mac mini and put the ram in? I've done that on a PC but I thought they made the mac mini hard to open. Plus I don't see any deals on CDW that are any different than what is on apple.com Update: http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/tutorials/macmini-ram/ lol there is no way I can do that. I've had to reformat my drive a few times because of a serious crash. I network all my equipment together. My computer, Tivo HD, and Xbox 360. I thought it would be a good idea to set my network as a trusted connection so I can share information back and forth but that seems to have left my computer open for attack. I did a firewall test and it passed so I really didn't see any problem but the system kept crashing every few weeks. So I switched my network to restricted and that seems to have solved the problem. I also had to buy drive clone to replace the horrid Windows Restore. Part of the reason why I kept having to reformat was because I had no working restore points. They would either get deleted because they had viruses in them, refused to restore, or didn't solve the problem. On top of that my little object dock stopped working a few times. So I had to go back to the start bar (yuck). Hopefully everything is fixed but I hate having to depend on Norton Security (Anti-Virus and Firewall) and Drive Clone. I'd much rather just run a 64-bit Unix (OS X) with built in firewall and file backup. I could run 32-bit Windows programs using VMWare Fusion (all of my programs are 32-bit only). As long as my computer holds up I don't really have a reason to go OS X. I guess the grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.
That's the understatement of the century. They're certainly going nowhere, nowhere forward that's for sure. I think backwards if anything. You can tell things are changing just by looking at threads like these. Mac vs pc threads have been going for years but its my experience the Mac users always faired badly and were mostly booed into silence. But these days its a very different story and this thread illustrates that only too clearly. It shows how many more Mac followers there are these days. Its pretty much an equal fight although Bill Gates isn't exactly making it easier on the windows users here with the failure that is XP which took years to even become useable and by that time it was time to be scrapped 'cos it was too far behind Mac OS X. Then he releases Vista which is just a bad copy of OS X. Gadgets anyone? For god's sake they could have at least called them something a little more different to widgets.