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  1. manofwar

    manofwar Active Member

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    Bought and sold at expiration (once they are put into pending status), the PR would be reset after the domain is expired but before it goes back on the market; i.e. aged domain which is bought while in limbo. There was a bit of confusion as I didn't make my original post very clear.
     
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    #22
    Nope, no miscommunication... The Pagerank is determined by backlinks, plain and simple. If a domain expires with Pagerank and is re-registered it keeps it's Pagerank, and when the next update occurs the domain will either rise, stay the same or drop in Pagerank depending on what the backlinks support.
     
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    ProCASHtinator Peon

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    #23
    You might be at an advantage if the site already has lots of backlinks.
     
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  4. manofwar

    manofwar Active Member

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    #24

    If an aged domain name is going into expiration (i.e. expired/pending status) and left with the base registrar at limbo (pending), even if it's 10 years old; once you buy it, the PR will be rest. i.e. buying expired aged domains. It happens all the time since I buy these domains regularly. Many people are buying aged domains from the registrar not realizing they were in expired status, which proves to be a fairly worthless domain thereafter.
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    #25
    Not true at all, search the domain forum for my username and you will see over 300 domains i have listed regged between 1995 and 1999.

    Ok one last time, Pagerank is NOT reset if the domain goes in to pending delete or expires and is reregistered.
     
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  6. manofwar

    manofwar Active Member

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    #26
    You're not very advanced in SEO if you think PR is not reset when the domain is expired or deleted. I own about 10x more domains then you, pushing 5k now in my portfolio, and I can assure you you're absolutely wrong. :D

    Either way, there's been a lot of talk about G moving past PR and into a digg style system with votes, so we'll see if that's going to happen or not (rumors).
     
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    longroad Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Interesting debate.. please continue :D
     
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  9. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #29
    I'm waiting for him to front up the $8 and i'll rip out DRT and get him a list of expired PR domains to register. ;)
     
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    longroad Well-Known Member

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    #30
    The SEO myths flying around here are downright scary.
     
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  11. manofwar

    manofwar Active Member

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    #31

    see your pm...
     
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    #32
    The facts are that the PR will not reset. The domain age will not reset either.

    However the grey area lies in where this domain's PR comes from. If you buy it from them and the people who are linking to the site drop their links, or if you stop updating the site as frequently, etc. The PR will eventually drop, over time. So essentially you're buying a moving train and it's up to you to keep it moving.
     
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    #34
    Yup, a ton of rumors and BS. That's because Google (as the main player) keeps a lot of things shaded. Although their algorithm went to the patent office (you can read it online), the popular belief is that their PhDs are changing its' structure and effectiveness almost daily. That's why the new wiki search is going to be revolutionary, it's going to let a natural progression rank websites vs. "SEO" per se.
     
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    #35
    Domain age rests when the domain is expired, look 2 posts down someone just purchased back his domain asking for SEO work. The whois shows it being created on 1/12/08 but he's had it for years with 1 drop!

    So, by your logic, anyone can buy a high PR expired aged domain and pass the PR to a new site; thus, growing the new site artifically...you're being goofy if you believe that. We did the same thing for Real Estate about 3-4 years ago, back then it worked well, now Google PhDs have stopped this practice.
     
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    #36
    You are officially clueless.

     
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    manofwar Active Member

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    #37
    Ok, sorry, let me go buy a condom to have a clue :eek::cool:

    If you can provide insight/proof on why I'm wrong, I'd be happy to hear it. Go a few posts down and contact the poster about his SEO work request and you can see his domain was dropped and he registered it again - the new created date is Jan 08.
     
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    #38
    what the hell is a trojan condom???
    does norton know about it?
     
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    #39
    Hi sweetfunny,

    You've mentioned in a couple of threads now that you have no problem with the sandbox and getting a site ranking quickly. I was hoping you might consider creating a thread on this. You wouldn't have to give away all your secrets, just some fundamentals as to how to rank a new domain quickly without a sandbox effect.

    I for one am hoping you might go with this.

    Cheers
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    #40
    Have a read of the thread i created called SERP Domination 4,785 Page 1 Rankings in 14 Days it was a very new domain now getting 17k visitors per day and still rising.

    It is one of many tactics.
     
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