I really have no idea what the big deal is about Ron Paul. Can someone please tell me why the internet is in love with him?
He doesn't flip flop, he doesn't pander, he sticks to his guns, he hits the issues head on and not simply what the dumbed down masses want to hear. He wants to bring the Republic back to what our great land was originally founded on, a little thing called the US constitution..
Theres many reasons, but he has a platform which is appealing to a broad range of people. He wants to focus more on what is happening here opposed to spending our money nation building because we need that money here to help us. Protecting the liberties of the people is also very big on Paul's list and he is offering true change. Everyone this year is throwing around the word change, but Paul really has some plans that will put our money to help us first. He is also one of the only candidates who is not a flip-floper. There are many reasons to like him in my opinion, you can read more about his stance on the issues here:http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/
Start with, Ron Paul 101 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_hh-Ycymao ------------------- Basically, he's the only candidate with a consistent record on taxes, on the war, on civil liberties, even if he has had to vote alone. He's the one candidate, that if elected, you can feel confident that he will do what he says, and say what he means. He's for Constitutional Government, and restoring America's economic greatness by cleaning up our troubled monetary system. If you have any specific platform or policy issues, feel free to post them in this thread or PM me. I'll do my best to get you the information you want.
If you agree that blacks are incapable of making sound political decisions and that 95% are criminals, one might be encouraged to support Ron Paul. If you do not like Israel, believe America is the cause of the world's problems, and want to dismantle America, Ron Paul is a good candidate.
Brave? Oh please, Gtech has been bringing the same crap up over and over. All he does is bash RP 'the guy with no chance' every second he gets.
I can't take credit for Ron Paul's bravery to suggest that blacks cannot make good political decisions. Ron Paul was very brave to say it. He also defended it in 1996, as have many of his supporters here who feel the same way. They would prefer people didn't know that Ron Paul wrote these racist views, or explain why neonazis, white supremacists and anti-semites (along with 9/11 troofers) are flocking to his campaign, for some "unknown" reason
It's not true, but GTech is very good at slander, and even when it is refuted on the forum, continues to post the same old lies. He has a Mike Huckabee thread for updates, but sadly feels the need to troll everyone else's candidate threads rather than maintain his own. And yesterday admitted, he trolls the RonPaulForums harassing supporters. Take him with a grain of salt.
What sets him aside is that he doesn't promote the 10 planks to Communist Manifesto. There is one or 2 other guys running who don't sleep with military or oil industry, but he is the only one opposed to all 10 planks, each one of them
gtech you're like a little kid i swear. the right used to use that argument against the left, but i'd say it's pretty evident that the base of both sides have some childish issues they ought to work out.
If it's not true, then why did ron paul and his campaign manager defend the comments in 1996? Further more, why did you defend RP on these very comments eluding to the fact that they were good observations, before the RPS got together to say otherwise? You used to defend these very comments, guerilla Those are RP's very own words, defending his racist comments. They are not the words of others. No op-ed, not second hand anonymous sources, it was RP and his campaign manager that defended those racist comments. Not really a way to lie out of that one, is there?
I've posted the answer to you several times, from Texas Monthly, and the New York Times. I have never defended those comments. I have defended Dr. Paul taking responsibility for the ghost written comments, because they were published under his newsletter. It may not have been the smartest move politically, but it was the right decision morally. Which basically sums up who Ron Paul is. A man who takes responsibility and makes moral decisions. And Ron Paul came forth 6 years ago to clear the air. You've been provided with this several times on this forum, yet you persist in posting it over and over. No lies needed. Just the truth. Ron Paul has a 30 year record, and you point to a ghost written article, totally out of character with everything he has done and written during that time. You should ask yourself why he is getting more of the African-American vote in polls than any other GOP candidate. I don't think they are buying the slander you constantly promote.
Can I play grim here? Please! OK, I'll do my best grim effort here, though I admit, I just can't twist things they way he does. "Got nothing but more lies, guerilla? Always twisting other's words around and taking things others say out of context. You are pathetic. Wow (always have to get at least one action word in there!), you are an embarrassment. I'm barely smarter than dirt and I have better conversations with grass outside of my trailer. I never said anything about harassing ron paul supporters. I said I taunt them. Wow, just wow! Talk about twisting someone's words around for their own agenda. There is a difference, but apparently you cannot see it. I, however (always have to get an "I, however" in there!) can see it and I'm sure others here (never hurts to solicit support from other RP supporters, woo hoo!) can see how you twist and lie about what others say. You make it to easy for ownage, Guerilla. You have nothing better to do than attack Mike Huckabee, however, I unlike you, (must always have an "I, unlike you" in there...part of that self-absorbed narcissism doohickey!) can admit when I'm wrong." /grim mode off Did that rock, or what? BTW, that's a parody done in good humor. Nothing personal
GTech, if the OP is following this thread still, you're doing a fantastic job making the case for Ron Paul, as you have done for months on this forum. Everytime someone posts slander, it's a great opportunity to set the record straight. But it's not your fault, even the MSM hasn't figured out that excluding Ron Paul or misrepresenting him just gets him more exposure and headlines. You see, the trick to beating Gandhi's doctine, of First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they attack you, Then you win is that you are supposed to stop at "ignore", otherwise you run the risk of letting your opponent win.
Ah, but this is not true. We both remember, right? Before the RP supporters go together to say "hey, let's say it's a ghostwriter," you actually used to defend the comments, I say again, the comments. Just like ron paul and his campaign manager defended them, you defended them too. This was before the "hey, let's say it's a ghostwriter" kick started in. So Ron Paul was either lying, when he defended them in 1996, or he was lying when he later recanted that story to say it was an (still unnamed) ghostwriter. So, there is an integrity problem there. Either way, he lied. He sure didn't seem to be lying in 1996. And why won't he name the ghostwriter? He associates with people (ghostwriters) that have these views? How ironic! There is no proof this was a ghostwritten article. In fact, there is very much proof that RP wrote it himself. He did defend it and accept responsibility for it, as did his campaign manager in 1996. Either he was lying then, or was lying in 200? Even more troubling is, he associated with people that had those views, and let them get close enough to him, to write for him (if that is true.) No matter how you look at it, it's a tight situation for you. He did admit to it in 1996 and defended it, so either he was lying then, or lying more recently. Because people like you have worked hard to cover up RP's racism? I don't know that he does get more. RP supporters spontaneously make up facts when backed into a corner. Some even suggest that not even 92 members out of 2.2 million military members, meant RP had more support from the military than any other candidate! Pardon me, if I'm not so trusting of a RP supporter. And with good reason.
So you agree with Ron Paul, that most blacks are not capable of making good political decisions? Just because you want to hide behind the truth, the truth you USED to defend yourself, doesn't mean others cannot look at RP's own words defending his racist comments. Though I do admit, given the controversy with national white supremacists coming out and saying "Ron Paul is one of us," and the fact that any other candidate, BUT RP would have returned donations from white supremacist groups, and all the other racists (how's White Will doing, btw?) ties that seem to just creep up without warning, why you wouldn't want these facts to be the first ones someone sees. We should probably sweep them under the carpet, right? Not let anyone know about them. Don't want to "spook" anyone away
Did I defend the comments? Do you have a source? Since I have followed Ron Paul, going back to May, why would I defend something that was refuted in 2001? That doesn't make much sense. I don't understand why you are adamant that 1996 is the truth. Again, you need to re-read the rebuttal I have posted to you at least 4 times on this forum, and you continue to overlook. Yes, and what if he covered up for someone in 1996? That would absolutely blow all of your racism charges out of the water. What an outcome that would be! No way! Guys like you, who are threatened by Ron Paul, while espousing that he won't be a factor in the election seem to work very hard to discredit him, online, offline, anywhere. And yet his campaign keeps growing, so either he's teflon like Reagan, or your constant slander attacks are disingenuous. The polls have been posted here to support this. You have seen them. You just continue to ignore them, because acknowledging the truth would undermine your ability to slander him. How come I never see anyone of color at the rallies for your candidate? Ron Paul did receive more military donations than all of the other GOP candidates combined in Q2, and beat every other candidate in Q3. You can go to fec.gov (Federal Elections Committee) and double check the research for yourself. If I were you, I would focus on your own candidate. He's the one who had to create a "Truth Squad" to spin all of his issues.