I got slapped for using a php redirect.

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by lhd333, Dec 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    So in about an hour's time, I got google slapped hard. 5 cent clicks became $5 clicks!

    I had the 5 cent clicks with a 1-page "pre-sell". It was quick and dirty and ugly, but it was a landing page.

    Then, I thought (through reading blogs and posts) that this would be good:

    <?php header( 'Location: azoogle ref link' ) ;?>
    Code (markup):
    Within an hour, SLAP! :eek:

    So, now I'm considering an Iframe approach. I've tried googling iframe, but I can't figure out how to do a full screen iframe and also have include a noframes tag so i can insert Quality score friendly info.

    Also would like to better understand cloaking. Any basic tutorials using Azoogle and cloaking out there?

    Need some serious hand holding here folks.

    Hope you can help! :confused:
     
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  2. NaughtyNeo

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    #2
    Spend some time to make a good quality landing page instead of trying to play with google. It doesn't have to look fantastic. Ugly sells! ;)
     
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  3. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    Okay, well, I switched it back to a landing page and my keywords haven't been repriced yet - or maybe that campaign is just damned for good. Should I delete the campaign and start over?
     
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    #5
    I wouldn't expect your min. keyword bids to go down for that campaign....ever. Your going to have to start a new campaign. It may even see the same URL and set the min bids to $5 right off the bat but I'm not sure about that.
     
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  6. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    #6
    Thanks for the response. I tried to use Scott's tutorial, but can't get it to work right.

    A few questions if you will:

    1. Does the index page (whereever I have the links displayed) have to be a php file - i.e. index.php?

    2. The tutorial says:

    <blockquote>
    &lt;IfModule mod_rewrite.c&gt;
     
    RewriteEngine On
     
    RewriteBase /
     
    RewriteRule ^jump/([A-Za-z0-9\.\_]+)/?$    /jump.php?to=$1 [L,NC]
     
    &lt;/IfModule&gt;</blockquote>
    Code (markup):
    Does &lt; mean "<"? I'm assuming the code wasn't displayed right on his blog.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  7. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    Nevermind - Scott updated his blog post - Thanks anyways!
     
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  8. topcash

    topcash Peon Affiliate Manager

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    #8
    Is there a way to use the cloaking method and set up “dynamic keyword insertion” together ??
     
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  9. scottmweaver

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    #9
    Yeah, there's definitely a way. There are actually a few ways, but the best way involves setting cookies.

    If you want, I can write up a post to compliment my post on cloaking your URLs. That's actually a decent idea.
     
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  10. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

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    #10
    I think you are confused at what cloaking is... just using redirects or iframes is not cloaking...
     
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  11. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    #11
    Thanks Shoemoney for your response. I PM'd you about this BTW.

    Yeah, I finally figured out cloaking (least I think I did). But I got slapped AGAIN!

    Would you take a peek at what I did and tell me where I went wrong?

    1. I created landing pages through a blog I started. (blog shall remain nameless for fear that G is watching and will slap me even if I do things "right".
    2. I cloaked my links with the help of Scott's blog: http://www.afftoolbox.com/2007/11/20...ak-your-links/
    3. I created my PPC campaign, linking to the appropriate page of each item I was promoting - wrote some content which I think was decent.
    4. I got my ass handed to me by google!

    Is this because I don't have any other links out to other places?


    Thanks,

    lhd333
     
    lhd333, Dec 27, 2007 IP
  12. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    BTW, anyone else who has input on this - I'd appreciate it too. Didn't mean to just target shoemoney and alienate other contributors.

    Thanks!
     
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  13. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    Anyone? :confused:
     
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  14. scottmweaver

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    #14
    http://www.afftoolbox.com/2007/12/30/keyword-tracking-the-right-way/

    There you go, ladies and gents.
     
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  15. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

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    #15
    scott... your method still sends a 301 redirect which googles spider (and human viewer will see).

    again... this is not really cloaking. Its simply telling google search not to count that link. Adwords is a whole different monster.


    Cloaking would be to show the adwords quality bot (and human agent) 1 thing while showing others something else. This could be based on UA, IP, geotargeting, or combinations.
     
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    #16
    I don't think you got slapped for the redirect, I think you got slapped for your landing page. Hard to say though without seeing it.
     
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  17. scottmweaver

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    #17
    Shoe,

    You're right, it's not 100% cloaked. My method is more to cloak the keywords and destination URL from the end-user, which wasn't what this guy was asking for.

    I'll have to code up a true cloaker. However, it would seem to me that with such a cloaker, you'd still need relevant content on the page that the Google bot/peeps see in order to keep from getting slapped. That makes things a bit more interesting. :)

    Maybe it'd be a good idea to throw in Wikipedia info on the fly? It's duplicate content, but it's relevant.
     
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  18. lhd333

    lhd333 Active Member

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    #18
    I know this is a real rookie question, but I often see landing pages (you know, the narrow 1 column page that goes on for about 5000 words) and then ends with a download of an ebook or some other $37 dollar product. How on earth does that not get slapped? It's 1 page, a ton of text yes, maybe a video or some rev screenshots, and then a buy button - is that enough to not get slapped?

    Has this been many people's experience?

    Point is, is this an approach that will prevent slapping? What don't I know about this approach that makes it work?
     
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  19. topcash

    topcash Peon Affiliate Manager

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    Im trying to use your jump link to add keyword insertion but having no luck.

    This part is not working. '.$_GET['kw'];

    <?php

    switch(strtolower($_GET['to']))
    {
    case 'jumptexthere';
    $URL = 'http://afflinkhere.com/1234?sub='.$_GET['kw'];
    break;

    }

    header("Location: $URL");

    ?>
     
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  20. john269

    john269 Notable Member

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    What about using a landing page with the redirect on, it shouldn't slap you for that if your landing page is optimized for Adwords.
     
    john269, Jan 6, 2008 IP