if i buy a old site , change the owner of domain and build site with total different content(even content in different language), google still see it as old site, it will still be easier to rank right?
I would be interested in this topic as well. I am starting some new sites, putting some content on them and some links and expecting to have to wait 6 months before I can try and get some serious serps. I wonder if its better to buy older domains?
Yes google will still see it as old site. Because google check domain age. what is best part of this? is SEO is very very easy for that domain and you can get easily ranking for your keyword after some backlinks. Hope it help.
I just bought a 2 year old domain 2 months ago. the domain has been indexed for the last 18 months but had very few back links. over the last month i have been adding new content and building links and the domain is already rising in the Serps for 3 very competitive search terms and I know that G has not even indexed half of the sites new links yet
Usually, even if the the domain is aged but was of a different niche than the one you want to develop it at the search engines will treat it as a new domain (for a certain period). But if you have a domain with previous content on the same niche as the one you are going to build in you will have some advances (maybe)
Half right. It is the links that age a domain, and set it's context. Thus if you bought a estate agent site and changed it to a webmaster forum, it will resandbox. If you rebuild it as a bigger and better estate agent it will fly through the serps even with a server IP change. Sandbox reduces at about a year, but is you can find a domain/ website with a few relevant links 3 - 4 years old, you will slice through sandbox. Tried Tested Dunnit Doingit
I have never had an issue with whether the links are aged or not when buying an older domain as long as the domain has at least been indexed for the age of the domain. I will agree though if you're going to buy an old domain buy one that is the same niche as what you are going for.
I would also like to see what happens this does seem interesting. Maybe buying older domains are worth it in the end.
Yes, true about the indexing. I bought some old domains but they had their G index dropped due to an uncaring owner and despite the price tag paid.....it sandboxed!
I don't know...But I can you tell us when you have done what you want with old site...It's interesting. Actually I havn't heard about it...And else: could you tell how much is it?
Google has access to domain registration data, so the algorithm takes it into account. When you purchase an aged domain, the ownership changes and Google will reset the PR, and (a lot of times) sandbox the site. Of course, you can prevent the full sandbox effect by buying the site early, putting up a few pages of information and slowly building links for 60-90days, letting the site growth at low levels. Keep in mind, Google doesn't sandbox all sites, but a good # of them will drop down the ranking. It seems to be the sites with least natural backlinks that get the hammer. The reason Google does all this is because many 'smart' individuals were buying expired and aged domains and passing PR to their new domains, abusing the system.
Pagerank does not reset because the owner changes, and it will not reset just because you change the niche. As for this sandbox how come i have never encountered it? Anyhow an aged domain is alot more favourable, however it wont replace good marketing and optimization.
Nope never, if you do things right there is no reason you can't get the site to rank quite fast and continue to hold good positions. New site's are more prone to be negatively impacted if you do things incorrectly than older sites that are established. Now more than ever new sites and pages have an advantage with the Query Deserves Freshness tweaks to the algo, so really the opposite of the sandbox is true.
Page rank resets when the domain is bought and sold - the topic of this conversation. This is actually hinted by Google many times since people were buying high PR domains to pass PR to new sites - cheating the system.
Rubbish, where do people come up with this nonsense? Thousands of Pagerank sites and domains get sold daily, Pagerank does not have anything what so ever to do with the Whois or the niche.
Maybe there is a miscommunication, I was talking about aged domains you're buying from the base registrar at expiration. A few people asked me this on PM, and I'm clarifying it here.