Does anyone know why they support who they do?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by sixfigureblogger, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. omgitsfletch

    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #21
    GTech is like his candidate, thinly veiled attempts at being the good guy, all the while being more concerned with the other candidates than his own campaign. Remember the anti-Romney ad debacle a few days ago? GTech has learned from Huckabee quite well, it seems.
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #22
    I've more than stood up for my candidate here, with the likes of dishonest efforts by the likes of you and other rabid paul supporters.

    I'm always encouraged though, to shed some truth on ron paul and even more encouraged when people try to spin his miserable death trap for America.
     
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    smatts9 Active Member

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    #23
    I support Biden because he was the first to point at me on the TV screen, it always gets me.
     
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    smatts9 Active Member

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    #24
    I don't like Huckabee because of his fair tax it'll destroy the poor of the country, it's crazy-talk.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #25
    And to think, you could have lied on behalf of your candidate and defended him, but instead, chose to attack me instead, because it's hard to defend ron paul from the truth.

    I have to admit, that I really enjoy reading the Ron Paul Forums after Iowa. Nothing short of a mutiny took place.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #26
    Actually, it will do quite the opposite. Most ron paul supporters would not like it, because of it's provisions to help the poor. That's why it's called the Fair Tax.

    BTW, was reading one of your posts on the RP Forums this morning. Or someone who is using your moniker there.
     
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  7. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #27
    The FairTax is total BS. All it really is, a progressive sales tax, instead of a progressive income tax. Since 70% of the economy is consumption, a FairTax will kill consumer spending.

    Other areas where it fails, is that the poor will have to pay the tax up front, at the point of sale, and then wait for a reimbursement. So under conditions of necessary spending and need, they may not be able to afford the sale price of needed goods with the tax added on.

    The greatest beneficiaries of the FairTax are the wealthy. They have the cashflow to wait for their reimbursements, can afford goods with the tax on top, and it will lower their nominal tax rate on income, actually providing a tax cut, while permanently pressuring the lower class to make day-to-day purchases.

    But it doesn't matter anyway. No one is genuinely running on a FairTax platform. Huckabee is merely using it as a voting block to pursue. I've heard him speak about the FairTax, and he isn't very knowledgeable about it at all. Merely pandering.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #28
    On the contrary, Ron Paul wants to fight inflation, which is the greatest tax on the poor and people of fixed income.

    The Fair Tax has a moving tax rate, and doesn't address spending.

    But then it makes sense that the tax and spend RINO candidate would be running on a platform of adding a tax, and not decreasing spending. Sounds a lot like his tenure in Arkansas.
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #29
    Incorrect. Dismantling the IRS with nothing to replace it, no thought of consequence, no plan, no analysis is BS. Dismantling America, is BS. Ron Paul, is BS.

    Admit it, guerilla, you support ron paul because he wants to dismantle America. You support him, because he blames America first. You support him, because you want a weaker America and believe America deserves to be attacked.

    Aren't these the reasons why you support him? They would surely coincide with some of your more ruthless posts about your country here.
     
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  10. Zibblu

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    #30
    Biden quit... So if you were being serious, you'll have to pick a new candidate... :)
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #31
    Please, spare me the "made up facts" about what ron paul wants. He wants to dismantle America, he wants to dismantle the IRS (which isn't a bad thing), but has no plan in it's place.

    His solution to everything is to simply dismantle it. Got a problem? Dismantle it. Don't like something, just dissolve it and hope for the best. Ron Paul has no solutions, unless you want to see America destroyed.

    Quite the contrary, it does address spending in a HUGE way. That's partly what it's basis is. Again, just like a ron paul supporter to "toss out anything" in place of real facts.

    Removing tax and loopholes for the rich, and giving everyone the same tax opportunity. Of course, ron paul's solution is to just get rid of everything and hope for the best, or (more probable) the worst. No plan, no nothing.

    Please, spare me. You cannot just dismantle America and especially the IRS and hope for the best (or worst).

    Please make a fool of yourself again, guerilla, on Huckabee again. I'll be happy to correct your dishonest, like I did last time. Ron Paul is a joke. You should be holding him accountable for his "destructive" policies towards America. That is, if you really cared about your country.

    Cinnamon roll, anyone? :D
     
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  12. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #32
    Dismantling the IRS and cutting spending back to Year 2000 levels is reasonable.

    Then you bring the troops home from around the world, and save hundreds of billions so you can save Social Security.

    So you can call it BS, but you don't have a grasp on the economic plan.

    Only a fool would argue that dismantling the IRS, and removing the income tax, would equate to dismantling America. That's like saying that paying taxes is American. Ludicrous.

    I support Ron Paul because he wants America to be strong, and in the control of the American people. I support him because he knows that the neocons and pro-war crowd have dragged this country through the mud under false pretenses.

    I support him because he wants to secure the borders, remove amnesty from the table and rebuild our military strength and readiness. I support him because he wants to take care of our veterans, and he supports Rolling Thunder in their quest to bring all of our POWs home.

    But most of all, I support Ron Paul because he doesn't have a history of abusing his position, or taking advantage of the taxpayer. He doesn't cavort with lobbyists, or vote to raise taxes. He refused to accept a Congressional Pension, or student loans for his 5 kids that he put through school on his own.

    And last but not least, I support him because he has served during wartime, and understands the needs of our soldiers better than Chuck Norris or Mike Huckabee.

    Ad hominem.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #33
    Incorrect. Dismantling the IRS and cutting spending back to the 1700s is not reasonable. He has no plan, no analysis, no nothing in it's place. As such, it's a clear indicator that he wants to dismantle the country. Got a problem? Just have ron paul dismantle it. Piece of wood in your home has a little dry rot? Tear the entire home down! That's Ron Paul's solution!

    Want to see the rest of the world taken over by islamists and evil dictators? Vote Ron Paul! He'll destroy our allies and our relations with them, make sure they instantly have no way to defend themselves, dissolve our treaties with them.

    Don't like Israel? Vote Ron Paul! Think 95% of blacks are incapable of making good political decsions? So does Ron Paul! Want to see Israel taken over by savages? So does Ron Paul! Vote for him!

    Want to dismantle America? Remove the IRS with nothing in it's place, want to dismantle the FBI, the CIA, reduce our military, want to give terrorists a fair chance at attacking America because we deserve it? Ron Paul!

    Don't like neocons? (Code word for Jews that Ron Paul and his supporters invoke often!) Vote Ron Paul. Ron Paul knows what "neocon" really is, and he doesn't like Jews either! He wants Jews out of politics, because he believes in conspiracy theories that they rule the world! Hate Jews? Ron Paul is your answer!

    Want to support someone with no accomplishments, no meaningful legislation, who is opposed to and voted against legislation that would be tougher on illegal immigration? Vote Ron Paul! Want someone with no leadership experience, no experience in managing a budget, no experience with having the lives of others depend on him? Vote Ron Paul!

    Want someone with military leadership experience? Don't vote Ron Paul. He served, but he wants our military to be defeated. He wants to bring them home without honor. He wants to deny our military their success in Iraq, because he believes it helps Israel. Do you want a commander in chief who has made absolutely clear he would not defend America? Do you want a commander in chief who doesn't understand what "honor" is for our troops? Do you want a commander in chief who wants to give a victory to al qaida because they deserve it?

    Spare me the spin, guerilla. Ron Paul wants a defeat, and like Rudy owned him the debates over, for suggesting "we deserved to be attacked," Ron Paul wants nothing positive for our country.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #34
    Legitimate questions, given your history here. Like I've pointed out before, when you don't want to answer the tough questions, you mark them as ad hominem to avoid them.

    And here, you've done it again. Is it a strategy that you believe others won't notice?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #35
    Jesus fucking christ tell me about it. Talk about a broken fucking record, bashing someone at every corner who has 'no chance' who hasn't deserved 'scrutinity of the media' yet instead of saying why he supports Huck 'the point of this thread' lets go off on yet another unintelligent bash fest on RP.

    What a waste of breath and forum space he is IMHO. :rolleyes:
     
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    smatts9 Active Member

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    #36
    What is victory in Iraq then, and what is it going to cost us in the end, so we can have our "honor"? Is it impossible for us to say we were wrong in invading Iraq or our we too proud to admit mistakes?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #37
    Yes because if we admit a mistake we might actually try to correct it in the future, or possibly not make the same mistakes, remember that is blaming America first you terrorist supporter!

    Oh shit don't mind me, I thought for a moment I was somone else ;)
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Your assuming gtech is for the poor and middle class. Most neocons are for the weathly, elite and privledged:D.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #39
    In the bible what is one of the biggest sins??????? you guessed it PRIDE!!!! Will pride bring back the lives of thousands of our soldiers? Will Pride take away the suffering and anguish of the families of these soldiers.
    What will gtech and rest say to little baby girls and boys who lost their fathers in that lie of a war? " your daddy died for our pride" . Amazing lol.
    Ron Paul predicted it in 2002 and the media still is trying its best to supress his awesome message to the american people, but he still believes we can get our country back.:)
     
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    #40
    I took another one of these "best match on the issues" surveys. This one is by ABC. This time I got #1 Kucinich #2 Gravel #3 Paul ... I actually think this is closest to being accurate so far... Anyway to the topic starter. I support the candidates I do because of the issues. Not because of their religion or their party affiliation or their haircut. Dig?
     
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