Is all pagerank equal?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by gregdavidson, Jan 3, 2008.

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    If I'm correct, your pagerank is based on the number of inbound links compared to websites that are in the same category as yours. So if my website was in a category that less people are competing for it would be easier to build up my pagerank. All because you have a high pagerank doesn't mean you can get a top spot for ANY keywords. Or does it?
     
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    It's based on the number of inbound links, their relevance to your site, and the PR of the inbound links you receive. There are probably other specs to the algorithm, but those are the ones most often talked about.

    High page rank doesn't necessarily help you place high in the SERPs and low page rank doesn't mean you'll have poor placement. Placement in the SERPs also depends on what keywords you target for your niche and your on-page optimization.
     
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    PR tells the relevance of every webpages as it was based on the QUALITY of your IBLs,.
    quality-meaning to say links from from quality, relevant and related site.

    As why Shyflower said, high PR not necessarily means good SERP and vice versa,. PR has nothing to do with SERP as these two has different algo,.
     
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    You are right, Page rank is based on the number of inbound links and related links that coming to your site. It is important that you submit your site to a related site and a site with a group of people like (forums). This is what we called of getting visitors, hits or traffic to a site. As you said, if you have high page rank it does not mean that you are listed or top spot for any keywords.
    Page rank, traffic and keyword ranking or position is the seo terms that we need to be prioritize.

     
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    I just can't imagine how people rely on PR in terms of increasing their site's ranking even though PR is nothing but a useless meter
     
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  6. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson Well-Known Member

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    No it's not. If two websites are competing for the exact same keywords the website with the higher PR will appear before the other. The only time they have an advantage is when somebody types in a longer phrase. If the website with the lower PR has that phrase in their page title and throughout their website, they can beat the site with the higher PR if it doesn't have that phrase on their site.
     
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    not true. PR doesn;t have much to do with SERP. a PR2 site can show at top ranking for the same keyword where a PR4 site can nowhere be found.

    also, from few posts above where it was suggested that PR is calculated based on links from related sites which is not tru either. if a completely unrelated site with PR6 links to you, that single PR6 link can bump your PR to 5 depending on how many outbound link that page has. however, whether you wil get higher SERP is a totally different question
     
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    That just isn't true - it just isn't.
    I know for one site I'm working on, the site is at position 3 for a keyword, and positions 1 and 2 are taken by sites with
    lower pagerank.
    The advantage they have is that they are both older sites.
     
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    where did you got this info?
    PR has nothing to do with SERP,. or the connection between the two is not direct,. Google or SE uses different algorithm in these two different thing. And its not true that two sites with same keywords but has different PR would be listed first, the one with high PR
     
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    As already said, PR is totally unrelated to SERPs. If your site is in a less competitive niche is wont be any easier to get higher PR.

    At the end of the day PR is just a number and it only relative to link sellers.
     
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    Hi! As I surf the whole thread, can I conclude that if a site using a particular keyword or phrase like "making money" is link to the most number or sites, and a visitor search for this keyword in google, this site will be on top of them all? If my conclusion is right, then the key to to the top is link, isn't?
    Another concern, if PR is just a number to link seller, then why does many sites are so proud to display their ALEXA PR widget? to sell their site in a high price?. Thanks!
     
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    Many webmasters doesn't care about PR anymore. But I think it would be a help having a good PR to rank for your targeted keywords plus quality and relevant back links for your site.
     
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    Pagerank and page title are the two things you REALLY need to pay attention to. If a website with a low PR is ahead of a website with a higher PR it means their page title was more relevant. If you search in Google for "wholesale sources tax id" my website comes up #1. You can see that other websites came after me that had a higher PR. I actually have a PR of 0 yet I'm in front of them. This was partially because of my page title and keywords. If they did exactly what I did and had their PR they would be in front of me. Not to metion I also have the word "wholesale" in my domain. But if you search for the word "wholesale" in Google you'll only see websites with high PR. That's because that's a single word and lots of people are going for it in their titles and content. On "quality" keywords only the high PR sites will come up first. You can also search for the term "golf". Don't you notice that all the websites on the first page seem to have about the same PR? As the list goes down their PR gets lower.
     
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    This is very neat and detailed explanation. Thanks for clearing it up. Now I know that my decision to change my blog title seem to be right. I'll check the first page again since I did not notice their PR.
     
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    Hi Greg! I just checked the first page and you are currently # 2, the first is Yahoo Answers. Anyway, I have one question: I have now changed my blog title to hope for SEO optimization, but others told me that it is better if I also change my URL for quality keywords, but of course still very much related to the content.
    Does it make sense too? My only worry is that I may be like starting all over again to promote my blog. Thanks!
     
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    What's your blog url? Maybe I can help you but I must admit that I am far from an SEO expert. You should post it in your signature that way everyone can see it.
     
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    Yes, you should make your url as relevant as your content. My website also shows up #1 for the term "legitimate wholesale" which is exactly what my domain is and is relevant to my content. I keep on hearing this term "sandbox" which I don't understand 100%. Somebody wrote this sticky on the subject:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=71522
     
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