6 years and still waiting. Advice please?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by attick, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. #1
    I've been submitting my site to DMOZ for about 6 years now and still waiting. I would submit every 3-4 months but now when I try to submit it won't accept the typed in code. I really don't know if there's a problem with the site or what, can someone take a look and if could get some advice from one of the editors I'd really appreciate it.
    Site is pedalcarplus.com
    Thanks
     
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  2. Spider-Man

    Spider-Man Banned

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    Hey. What category are you submitting to and what 'description' did you use?
     
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  3. attick

    attick Peon

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    Shopping: Antiques and Collectibles: Toys and Games: Cars and Trucks: Pedal Cars

    Desc: Pedal Car Plus specializing in pedal cars, pedal planes and pedal tractors for children and big kids. Retro pedal cars, custom pedal cars, pedal car parts and riding toys
     
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  4. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #4
    You have at least three pages that say "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" which is a quick way to not get a listing.

    I'd say that attictresr.com was keeping you out, but that does not seem to be listed either. Do you have one of the mirror sites listed? If so, then that is likely the main reason.
     
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  5. attick

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    no other sites listed. Had atictresr.com first, then pedalcarplus.com very shortlt after.
    Can I ask how you found the attictresr.com?
     
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  6. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #6
    A simple google search for the phone number.

    And it's not all that hard beyond that, you have the attic treasure banner at the bottom of most of your pages.
     
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  7. attick

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    I had thought about disabling attictresr.com but was told it didn't matter.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #8
    Duplicate content matters in both Google and DMOZ. While most of the stuff is actually written differently, I'm pretty sure it's the same pedal cars for sale. I'm actually unsure how that effects a DMOZ listing though as I've not looked into those category guidelines. Though if any of the pages do match, or if its deemed an affiliate site or a mirror then it can disqualify the site as a listing.
     
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    Give it up. AOL is no longer supporting Netscape, what does that tell you about DMOZ.
     
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    #10
    It will matter, but only if you are attempting to pass the ranking to whichever you class as your main site. Use the rel="nofollow" attribute on ALL links between each site - do not miss out a single link,make sure they all use this. Fix all 'under construction' pages as the guidelines do state no under construction sites, or mirror sites for that matter. Your description is a bit on the keyword/spam heavy side, I'm no mean expert on pedal cars, but the fact you have the term 'pedal cars' in the description 5 times doesn't really help. The best way to get a listing would be to have both your sites bearing completely different content - if you intend on keeping both sites, that is. Also, fix all under construction pages. Make sure all META tags are individual on each page and that the actual site experience is good, without images and popups flashing about all over the screen. Your page <title> tags are also far from ideal and are spam-like.

    Perhaps an ideal description would be the following, assuming your business is called 'Pedal Car Plus'?

    Enter your site name/title as 'Pedal Car Plus'
    Do not repeat the site title in the description.

    Description: Specialising in pedal cars, tractors and trains for children and big kids. Also provides customised retro cars and accessories.

    That way you are removing the repetitive element of 'pedal this, pedal that'. For a PageRank point of view, that category only has a PageRank 2, so you're not getting that much of a massive boost from that, although I would agree it is the only category worthy of your site.

    Finally, don't put all your efforts into getting a listing in the Dmoz, it won't help you too much. All the hours you've spent attempting to get into the Dmoz directory could have been spent submitting to free web directories and gaining partners in the pedal car field - just remember that;)
     
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    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #11
    Your description really sucks. Follow the guidlines when submitting. With a description like that you will get rejected in a second.
     
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    #12
    Thanks for the tips. Do you think the changes suggested (title. desc) will help at all with the search engines? Could attictresr.com be hurting me with the SE? What about the keywords I'm using?
    Don't have any pages under construction
     
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    #13
    Please don't submit more than once, you only get a headache and put yourself to the bottom of the list. You are in a Q and one day someone will review your site and list it or reject it, sadly you will not be informed either way. But there is nothing more you can do about ODP so promote your site in other places where you are not just wasting energy.
     
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    #14
    attick, select keywords cautiously, don't stuff your keywords list, but use simple, user-friendly keywords. To get a site to rank well in search engines, you need to design the site, both in terms of meta tags, design, content etc, for human users, not spiders and search engines.
     
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    The description does suck, but that is not a reason to reject a site. 99% of all suggested descriptions need to be re-written to be compliant with the guidelines. That being said, what is more likely to happen is that amongst the pile of other junk suggestions, one with a badly keyword/hype stuffed description will be skipped over in lieu of another suggested site that had a closer to compliant description supplied.
     
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    Thanks Shadow.
    I worked on the title/description/keywords last night. Maybe it will help.
    I tried submitting another site (so relation to pedalcarrplus.com) and had the same problem with the code you have to enter. Message says what I type doesn't math what's in the box. I had 3 other people check and all said it looked the same to them. Has anyone heard of this problem or maybe DMOZ having a problem with Windows Vista?
     
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    I've heard of problems with dmoz implementation of Captcha. It's being worked on from what I understand, but that statement doesn't tell you when the fix will be effective.

    All I can suggest is either try it on different machines/browsers/etc and hope for success or wait until that nebulous day when someone announces they fixed it. All I got... I'm not staff, just an editor. I'm about as pleased as you that they've had a problem with it this long without having it fixed. [Insert growling noise here.]

    Implementing it was a good idea, but AOL has a way of being able to make the worst of a good situation. I like the directory and the editors, but IMO the absentee owners need to pull their head from that dark place it tends to reside and get with the program.
     
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    I can't say that I disagree with any of what robjones posted above. I will add though that sometimes hitting the back button and trying again has been semi-effective at correcting the bugs. Refreshing doesn't usually help but you could try that also. CAPTCHA is a good addition, they just need to dedicate the time and resources to fixing the bugs and make it work as its supposed too.
     
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    (dup post removed)
     
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    #20
    as I said pedalcarsplus.com is in a Q and dated December, so it was last submitted recently, don't submit again it will go to the bottom of the Q, and that is quite long.
     
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