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Do YOU believe in evolution?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by astup1didiot, Oct 29, 2007.

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

    111 vote(s)
    75.5%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #1141
    This is rediculous and has never been proven by one scientists of teh scientific community. I believe in the bible and im christian but as i said time and time again, the book of genisis was not written to be interpreted figuratively but conceptually. Only extremist christians ignore the fact of carbon dating and the fact that man did not come for millions of years after the dinosaurs. If you can disprove carbon dating you will become a trillionaire just from the publicity. I once had a bible study professor who when he preached seemed like he was in a trance with his eyeballs popping out of his head. This doesnt make him any better a christian than the poor lady down the street who gave most of her side earnings to the church.

    Since when has christianity been about ignoring cold hard facts??????
    Evolution as i said before proves the existence of god. What i dont believe is in darwinian evolution which says that life and order came from chaos.
    That website link u showed obviously is just a tadddddddd big biased here.
    Christianity is about truth and reason.

    I have given a link that scientifically proves the concept of intelligent design on dp.please look for it.

    Also killafawk, the bible isnt bs, but if not interpreted in teh right way it can seem to alot of people to be bs. Time and time again the 2 hardest parts of the bible to interpret are the book of revalation and the book of genisis. There are many reasons for this
    and if you want to know them i would suggest doing a study of them and not just spouting things without knowing about them fully:).

    jesus specifically talked about interpretation of his religion in teh bible, so look for this verse and it will explain all. he even said that not everyone is qualified toi fully translate the bible on their own:).

     
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  2. sb1234

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    #1142
    Its biblical my friend
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #1143
    Just out of curiosity, you seem to be an atheist and YET at the same time you claim to know what a Christian should or should not do. How do you decide on what a Christian should do (or don't do)?
     
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  4. killafawk

    killafawk Active Member

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    #1144
    i've read the bible, although i don't remember most of it i know some stuff about keep your enemies close or something along the lines of don't hate your enemy or what not. who knows what it says but theres things in there like that i don't know them verse for verse.
     
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    #1145
    What you need to understand is evidence and fact are two different things. Evidence can lead to fact, but is not a fact. A fact is a truth. A truth does not change therefore science can not be fact. So do not tell me im not listening to the facts, when in FACT. You haven't presented any. Evidence is all that is available to support evolution. Carbon dating is not solid, thats a fact. Any scientists that says carbon dating is completely accurate is a lier. And if it is not accurate, which it is not, i will not put that over the one book that is, and always has been.

    You say you are a christian, well i ask you this christian. Where does it say that Genesis is not to be taken literal? It doesn't. God is not the author of confusion and would not write something that would confuse us. However now that you believe it is not true, you are confused. The lord tell us not to take or add anything that is not in his word. You have taken from the truth of Genesis, and added evolution. You my brother are wrong in your doctrine. Perhaps a deeper study and prayer will reveal that to you.

    You call me an Extreme christian. Why? Because i read the bible as it was meant? Because I do not limit God? If Genesis is not to be taken literal, why bother with the genealogy?

    I know you seek the truth, but if you believe in evolution. You are calling the bible untrue. And i ask you why would you do such a thing? No one has haver proven the bible to be untrue, in fact, more and more, it reveals its self to be true and accurate.
     
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  6. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #1146
    I think hes confused ;)
     
    astup1didiot, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    #1147
    Thats to say that the speed of light was always a constant speed.
    http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html

    On the same idea if the earth was that old all the erosion from rain that washes salt from the mountains into the sea would make for some not so big mountains. Just a few things to think about.

    Peace!
     
    emilbus20, Dec 18, 2007 IP
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    #1148
    What are you talking about?
     
    stOx, Dec 18, 2007 IP
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    #1149
    I guess education isn't a real big part in your history.

    Most mountains on the earth are underwater and they are formed from plate techtonics. the earths crust moves and pushes land upward to form mountains, mountains are also formed from volcanoes, and erosion.

    Some islands in the oceans are even tops of mountains so your argument is flawed.
     
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  10. astup1didiot

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    #1150
    Did you even read this article? It explains how light can be slowed down by a in labatory setting and still doesn't change the fact of normal light speed travel.


    Smacks head for reviving a thread that should of stayed dead :rolleyes:
     
    astup1didiot, Dec 31, 2007 IP
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    #1151
    I believe in the Bible and in Evolution. The Bible was written as a collection of metaphors, when it says it took 6 days to make the earth, that could have been 6 million years...
     
    tempscript, Dec 31, 2007 IP
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    #1152
    I believe we evolve over time not sure about no god. somethings can not be explained by science no matter what
     
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    #1153
    What's the difference between adaption and evolution?
     
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    #1154
    Adaptation is included under the penumbra of evolution. But evolutionary theory also extends adaptation to include explanation for speciation.
     
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    #1155
    You lost me at "penumbra"
     
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    #1156
    Look it up.:D
     
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    #1157
    Dearie me. Do we have t use big words when little ones do the same job?

    Adaptation is where a species "adapts" to it's environment. For example, amphibians can adapt to living in water or living on land.

    Evolution is where a species "evolves" into another species. For example, a porpoise into a giraffe, a tortoise into a hare or a monkey into a human.

    Please note: this is just an example so please don't go off yer rockers about the "examples" I used. It's just to get the basic ideas for him/her/it. :D
     
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    #1158
    If you like the rhythm of "penumbra," then, yes. I like the way it rolls off the tongue over the cumbersome "general classification." And there was a time when such words weren't considered "big," nor were they considered tripping points - there was a time when language itself conveyed pleasure. Consider me an atavistic proselyte for language as meaning, rich in metaphor and resonances, and not merely as utility's stark tool. ;)
     
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    Actually, by the way, Col, your characterization of evolution isn't quite right. Evolution is a change of a given gene expression in a population from generation to generation. As such, evolutionary theory captures adaptation, as well as speciation.
     
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    #1160
    If you lok at genisis it is not written in the same sense of teh word at all as opposed to other parts of the bible. Clearly it was written in a more symbolic way. Now i ask again, if you can prove that the eartrh is not older than 6000 years , and you can disprove carbon dating then im wrong, but to date not one scientist can prove it and would clearly laugh at anyone that does.
     
    pingpong123, Jan 1, 2008 IP