Page rank question

Discussion in 'Google' started by Karel, Dec 31, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi, I have a question about page rank. I know its not the be all and end all in terms of traffic. In fact my page rank has stuck on 4 even though my hits have trebled.

    I just wondered what was more important, more links or more content or maybe there is a bigger factor to improving it.

    Thanks Paul
     
    Karel, Dec 31, 2007 IP
  2. mattonline

    mattonline Active Member

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    i'd say more content, as your viewers would appreciate it more, design your site around your users not search engines
     
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    egorych Peon

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    #3
    Interesting ))

    PageRank is calculated according to a number of incoming links and their quality, so content matters only as a factor to get more links. That's all.
     
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  4. mizaks

    mizaks Well-Known Member

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    #4
    To improve PR you need to increase the number of relevant backlinks to your site.
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #5
    PR depends on Backlinks mostly

    But why to impove it aim for improving rankings then traffic grows then $$$ comes :)
     
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    dnk Well-Known Member

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    #6
    PR and traffic may not be related for all sites
     
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    scriptillusion Peon

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    #7
    I'd have to say backlinks are the most important for your question, but like mattonline said, do not stray from content as it is important to give your viewers what they are looking for.

    Also, if your visitors are continuing to grow then PR shouldn't be too big of an issue with you. Would you rather have more viewers or higher PR?? I know probably both and in time it will come, but if your getting the viewers now I'd say your doing ok.
     
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    more content is better google loves new content
     
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    IProx Well-Known Member

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    Traffic and SEO helps.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Id say more quality content, still more links and something unique that you could offer that your competitors dont.

    People always say content is king, but poor content, or poorly presented content may prevent people returning.
     
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  11. nicku

    nicku Peon

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    I don't even worry about that stuff. I write everything like it's going to be that piece that is going to get me discovered somewhere. A lot of times you only get one chance to impress that person that is coming to your site. If you are writing content heavy pieces that are well put together, the links, the search rankings, and all of that will come. If you try to write an article with the word lettuce in every sentence so that it is keyword heavy, no one is going to want to read that. "I bought lettuce, I sold lettuce, he got lettuce, we ate lettuce." No one is going to want to read that, and in the end your site is going to suffer. Just try to be the best that you can be, and it will happen organically. When you try to cheat, you always get caught, and then before you know it your blacklisted altogheter.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Great advice nicku, ive found its a lot easier and more enjoyable to right naturally, when trying to write for keywords and search engines it becomes stressfull and a chore.

    Your very right, dont try to cheat and remembering that its humans who will be reading the text.
     
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  13. Karel

    Karel Peon

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    Thanks I do very well in the search engines, top for many words and key phrases and this is mainly because I do build the site for customers. I just wondered why google seemed to rank my site so high yet the p.r stays the same.

    One of the reasons is because I am trying to trade links with a site and they only accept p.r of 5 or greater, so it would help to pop up a notch or two. I also have added far more content and got far more one way links, but the p.r has never changed, unless google have slacked on this recently.
     
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    #14
    your very right....!!!

    but Google assumes that if your site is good have good traffic you would automatically have more back links.... , but that's the case all of us are aware of it.... , i can just get a domain today and shell out some money buying quality links i could have a pr5 in the coming update.... which is totally opserd,

    don't u think its time for Google to look in to other parameters like traffic etc to calculate PR
     
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  15. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    Page rank is just one of hundreds of factors that Google uses to rank your page.
     
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    Doughboy23 Banned

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    links from sites with higher pagerank, builds your pr
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    Not always the case. Some pages that sell links have had their ability to pass pagerank blocked by Google.
     
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    mattonline Active Member

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    PR is aload of $%^$#

    I own the forum in my sig, and i'm number 1 in the google result against PR 4,5,6 Sites and im a PR2, i stayed the same PR For the last update (i may increase, in the next as recently i purchased 200 directory submissiions :))
     
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  19. Karel

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    You have a blog and a forum in your sig, for what keywords are you number 1, seems a bit odd to me.
     
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    #20
    I've seen sites with 0 PR stuck on the first SERPs on competitive keywords. Besides, the fluctuation of PR might sometimes be simply unreliable.

    I'd say, if you want to sell your site, then yes, PR is very important, because it's one of the factors that people look after. If you want to get better links from link exchange, then yes, it's important. If you want traffic, there are other things that should concern you.
     
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