American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

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  1. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #241
    They were created to drive Israel from illegally occupieing Lebonese land. And they done it. They drove one of the biggest equipped and financially backed armies out of their land, and because they acomplished the goal is the only reason why they are listed a terror group.

    Lebonon 2006 war:

    Hezbollah has very unaccurate rockets, in the whole war they kill around 30 or so Israeli civillians

    Israel has the best equipment, best fighter jets, all from America, very accurate. They kill over 1000 civillians, mostly women and children.

    Who are the terrorists? ;)
     
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    #242
    I can understand that. If someone invaded my country, then I would be thankful to the US army. You feel the same for lebanon. I still don't like hezbollah. I believe they are a group that encourages violence against israelis and americans. I read that hezbollah has their own television station in lebanon.
    source

     
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  3. grab my heat

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    #243
    When Israel says they will "wipe out every last arab from the region" they are considered a threat to their existence. They do encourage violence against Israel...because Israel occupied their country and killled thousands of their people, you are not going to be best friends after that are you?

    The thing is, if Israel was not in the region, most of the region would live in peace and harmony.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #244
    From reading their statements, it seems they will encourage violence against israel for as long as they exist. Israel isn't going to just pack up and leave. It equates to never ending war and bloodshed on both sides. That's not a good way for anyone to live. Israel says they will "wipe out every last arab from the region". Do you really believe israel is planning genocide against the arabs?
     
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  5. grab my heat

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    #245
    For as long as they exist, they exist on stolen land so it is not surprising that people are violent towards them. The way I see it is if someone broke into your own house, and took your bedroom and said ok this is mine, my ancestors 2000 years ago lived here so I'm staying here thanks. You are going to use force against them!

    Here are some quotes from former Israeli prime ministers and Army generals:

    "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988


    "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.


    David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.


    "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.


    "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

    "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994

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  6. Will.Spencer

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    #246
    The Lebanese resistance against Hezbollah?
     
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    #247
    Very well said my friend.

    Some people, just don't understand the meaning of resistance. I believe they'd label even George Washington as a terrorist.

    It is true. History is written by the victors.
     
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    #248
    man.. u live in a dream...

    anyway, u think that equipment is all ? u r stupid .

    i live in israel and unlike u i do know what happend here and what happend on lebanon 2006 - lets face it - u r a nazi.

    ffs think a little (if u can) and try to understand why we killed 1000 civillians ?!

    this picture is ur answer :

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    and don't tell me i'm wrong cuz u probably sitting on ur ass and u don't really know what is army.

    u just watching too much CNN .. u think u know everything but U DONT!!!

    illegal settlements in GAZA ?! FFS!! We get them all out on 2005 - but yea keep blaming israel..

    we only have illegal settelements in WEST BANK !!! and west bank have no connection to gaza strip.. know another thing ? THEY EVEN HATE PPL FROM GAZA.

    lol - u just don't know a shit.

    and u know what ? although we have illegal settlements on west bank we still can go there. u know, i can't really go to gaza...

    ohh damn i read ur post again and i amazed !!
    "Hezbollah has very unaccurate rockets, in the whole war they kill around 30 or so Israeli civillians"

    U KNOW WHY THEY KILL ONLY 30 PPL !?!?! BECAUSE NO ONE !! more than 90% of the israelis was here on the south where their missles couldn't get here. the other 10% was deep inside the bunkers...
     
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    #249
    Sorry, can you explain to me what's the point of hiding behind civilians if that doesn't stop opposite side to blow you up together with civilians? I'm curious to understand that. :)
     
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    #250
    Nice simple flawed logic your using there;

    They hide behind civilians because they know Isreal will try not to kill civilians. Whilst the latter is true it does not give terrorists a free pass to launch attacks then have 100% protection by hiding behind women & children, because even though Israel tries not to kill civilians they will try their best to still kill terrorists & sometime civilians will get killed in the process.

    Hiding behind civilians is done for two reasons;

    It offers a reasonable amount of protection.

    Even if they get killed chances are some civilians may die, which leads to great propaganda.
     
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  11. YardenG

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    #251

    ok.

    i guess u r not open to hear more and u will still hate jewz but ok lemme explain.

    WE DO NOT kill everyone that we suspect !
    WE DO try to not kill civillians because we care about them but sometimes it's just too dangerous. You see, you guys think it's so easy and it's like the movies but sometimes you have no choice and it's your life vs other family life - what would you do ? you will probably say that you will never kill a civillians and bla bla bla but in reality you will kill 100 people to save ur ass - let's face just it.

    you guyz just think everything is so easy.

    you know sometimes our army now that there are two or more terrorists in one house - unlike ur armys ( UK \ USA ) we won't bomb this house - our soldiers will get inside the house to kill them and trying to avoid killing civillians.
     
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    #252
    Terrorism is targeting civilians, women and children with rockets and suicide bombs.

    Comparing George Washington to Hezbollah is an insult against the US and freedom.

    George Washington was a soilder and gentleman that followed the rules of war. He wasn't a terrorist like Hezbollah and Hamas.
     
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  13. The Webmaster

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    #253
    George Galloway says Hezbullah isn't a terrorist organization, so it must be not...

    *Note the sarcasm...
     
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    #254
    Yeah, so in 1948 Israel invaded its neighbors? I don't think so...
    "Arab League members Egypt, TransJordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq declared war"

    When you attack a country and they kick your ass, you are not entitled to the land you lose in the war.

    But I suppose you mean further back than that...I guess you ignore the Muslim conquests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests) and just act like the Muslims were always there and the Jews stole the land from them.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #255
    This pictures illustrates the reality at the 1 st grade level, so even the highly educated American terrorist sympathizers and moonbats can understand.

    The same can be said of the Soldier of most any other terrorist nation.
    Terrorists are cowards. Note the use of JCPenny white sale items in his garment choice. He has to hid underneath a veil so no one will know who he is. Note the fact that he is using a child as a shield. He would even use his own child. This picture clearly articulates the reality of the situation. It further illustrates just what kind of sick people we are dealing with in this world.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Since when is a UN Cease fire an accomplishment for terrorists?
     
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    #257
    LMAO! It really is funny when the Israelis try to turn their crimes on its head and say it was them, it was them! But you know, you can't really be surprised that Israelis are using kids as human shields, watch this vid

    Also, another typical Israeli response from you, going on about Palestine and Hamas when we are taling about HIZBULLAH, who you can't refute. Keep talking crap kid! :eek:
     
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    #258
    Comparing Hizbullah and Hamas shows how little you know, I'd stop talking know If I were you, you just made yourself look like a fool.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #259
    Like I said, that picture can be used to illustrate just about any terrorist group, faction, or country...

    The fact that even the most remedial images cannot break through really makes me feel sorry for you. There are special places and special schools the specialize in your kind of learning disability. I would be more than happy to help donate money in order to get you the help you need.


    They are both terrorist groups.. That is a pretty easy comparison.. Need more?
     
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