Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul

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    In case you doubted whose side Chomsky was on:



    http://www.anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=74.html
     
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    Chomsky is a Communist-I went to one of his lectures while at college,all he went on about was anti nationalism and internationalism.His ideals on socialism need to be changed,the cold wars over.
     
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    #3
    I never agree with you, but
    You summed it up perfectly.
     
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    Noam Chomsky advocates humanity. Paul advocates selfish interest of individual, eg Americans.

    I do like getting rid of CIA, IRS and Federal Reserve. Beyond that Paul looks dangerous for humanity.

    Noam Chomsky is a jew but above all things, he stands for humanity. But some jews don't like that. ;)
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, socialism and communism are good in theory, but in reality they fail miserably. Paul wants to put more power and responsibility into the hands of adults, and people decry that as evil and heartless. For most of the history of our country we've drifted more towards socialism, and it simply doesn't work. In the interests of helping the poor and the helpless, we've hardly helped them at all, squandered countless billions on social programs that are inefficient and ineffective, and hurt the freedoms and liberties of adults to do as they please and run their own lives.

    That is why you are seeing more and more people jump on the Paul bandwagon. They don't agree with everything he has to say or everything he wants to do, but they know he is one of the few people in government walking the other direction, away from big government and socialism, and back towards the liberty our country was founded upon. Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same evil coin, using different methods of achieving the same overall goal. I think I speak for a lot of RP supporters when I say this is the candidate I've wanted to cast a vote for in every election, but quite simply there wasn't a choice close to him, or the candidate simply wasn't viable (third-party, etc). Paul has changed all that.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    I believe that if these government programs are cut down and the american people have more money in our pockets taht we will act much more responsibly towards helping the poor ourselves than the government ever could. We have shown throughout our history that we are a compassionate and charitable nation, and this is what i think Ron Paul is banking on. I think the middle class will become very prosperous under his leadership .

    Fletch i agree completely, why do you think i am so excited to vote for the first time in my life. The american people have been waiting for so long for a Ron Paul to come along.
     
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    No, Chomsky is probally one of the greatest intellectuals to ever lived, if we went be his views the world would be a much better place.
     
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    Okay please explain to me how Sweden, Norway and Finland are 3 of the best ranked countries on the planet....and wait for it.....they are mainly socialist!
     
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    #10
    What are you saying, please elaborate.

    Maybe paul is good choice. I have always pondered what would be, if everything was dismantled and given to individual. I guess you don't need to be caring at government level (fox guarding the hens, very much so), it's better served at individual level. But there are better accountable government run program out there than run by US government.

    Atlas Shrugged is a good book. Maybe that's what Ron Paul advocating. Also don't be naive about human nature if that kind of system was to be achieved and put in place.
     
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    Funny isn't it? The ideas of free markets, personal liberty (civil and economic) and personal responsibility have been spun into "bad ideas". Thanks to public education, the indoctrination runs deep.

    They may have decent standards of living, but they are far from free. The one thing they have going for them is that they only have a welfare state, not a warfare state as well.

    The only way to pay for a war is taxation or inflation. We weren't taxed for Vietnam, and we weren't taxed for Iraq. These wars have been paid for by diluting the wealth of the nation.

    And only in a free society can such governmental abuses of the monetary system be restrained.

    You ever see those advertisements for children's aid, where they say that 80 cents of every dollar goes directly to the children? That 20% premium is the cost of management, and 80% is far from ideal.

    One has to ask themselves how in 4 generations since the "New Deal" we still have a large poor and lower class. How we let women into the workplace, and yet most families now cannot survive without two incomes, and many people owe more than they own.

    A bullet or bomb has no social value, unless used in self defense. When we bomb Iraq, we flush taxpayer money away. We dilute the wealth of the nation.

    Liberty is a new idea in history. And it didn't fail, but has been eroded and slowly turned back to authoritarianism. The higher power gets from the individual, up the ladder of political power, the weaker liberty and it's ideals become.
     
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    Actually I think you will find they are among the "free'est" countries in the world.
     
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    #13
    Not economically.
     
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    Sure they have high taxes but they voted for it and it works. And look at the results, they are at the top of all the rankings.
     
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    The government tells us the economy is doing well. Do you believe that?
     
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    #16
    There are some interesting points here:

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/11918

    A gatekeeper's job is to keep people from going too far down any rabbit hole, to keep them sidetracked, to keep them from finding the truth.
     
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    I like Ron Paul personally, especially when you face him against all the clowns he is running against in both parties. As time goes on, the differences between Democrats and Republicans become fewer and fewer. They both want to waste our money on garbage.
     
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    What is the percentage of homeless in each of these 3 countries?
     
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    I didn't read word for word, I just skimmed it. There was someone mentioning
    What hidden agendas does Chomsky has?
    Search On the web: Chomsky the Gate Keeper
     
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    Not sure but it is very very very low.
     
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