It matters to me what I believe You might be right. The government may be working in their best interest and not mine or the military people who serve, but I don't think that is a good thing and I would like to see that change.
Ok, I tried to step away because I really want some bacon and eggs. There is nothing to stop you from running for Congress. The RP Revolution has over 25 people now running for office so we can try to take the government back. If they haven't done the job we want them to, then we need to hold them accountable and vote them out. That's what this campaign is based on. We're sick of the liars, the scandals and the theft. We're sick of the corruption.
My point is that the government is just a mouthpiece for the will of the society. I cannot call for full democracy, it's simply impossible to implement and is prone to abuse and many of the things that made necessary an Electoral College. This posts sounds more like a Ron Paul supporter than someone who is against him. If you don't like what government is doing, vote them out. Look at Paul's voting record, he votes for what he stands for, is the most principled candidate running, and truly is the people's candidate. If you have a problem with big government and a Congress that doesn't represent the people, you should be on our side here, bud. Still waiting for a response to my big post.
As would i , which is why i figured i would check out this ron paul everyone is talking about. I hear he doesnt have a chance though. However ive seen many supporter in my own town. Definately sounds good to me. Well, i guess you guys have atleast got me thinking. What about abortion, what is his stance?
There are a number of people on DP who I would vote for Just the ability to articulate why you stand for what you stand for is something it seems Congress has thrown to the way side. I think most people can tell honesty from spinster BS, and I think most of what I hear from politicians is spinster BS. I would love to see a president write their own speeches for example!
Thinking is a good step. In a perfect world, I would hope everyone would like my candidate, but at the very least, everyone should consider all of the issues so that our elections represent knowledge of the issues. Personally, he is against abortion. Federally, he wants to overturn Roe. vs. Wade and return the decision to the states. Ron's delivered 4,000 babies. He believes that life starts at conception, and while the mother has a right to her body, the baby has a right to it's life.
I agree, you know it causes me to feel sorry for Bush, i honestly dont think this is his plan, any of it. I mean the man is not a rocket scientist, lets face it. So many people put him on top of this masterplan, yet the man can hardlt talk correctly. I could be wrong, but i think he is just as much a puppet, as anyone.
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis.shtml http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html Paul loves to write his own speeches, and his words are well documented.
Is his withdrawl plan an immediate or gradual withdraw, if i could get past the war thing, i think id be sold
I truly believe Bush has the best intentions in mind for America, I just think he's so blatantly wrong on so many issues. I'm past it all though, we have a bit over a year, there isn't much more damage we can do. Some people here are overly concerned with his actions, I just think the most important thing we can do to overturn the problems he's caused is to make the most informed vote in 2008 and return the White House back to the people and the Constitution, and away from special interests and corporate backers.
I would probably call his withdrawal plan a midpoint between the two. He wouldn't be packing people up tomorrow, but I think with a Paul presidency we would see a withdrawal that would be complete within just a few months. Let me try to find an exact statement by him.
Well, Paul is essentially running on Bush 2000's foreign policy. The same policy that Reagan had. You know, Reagan was a pretty big failure as a President. He was a great man, but when he got into office, he brought Bush Sr. as his VP, and that undermined his ability to follow through on any of his campaign platform. I don't think Bush is evil, but I do think he is misguided and controlled by people who are using him as a front man for their own agendas. We really need some leaders who have the strength (of will and conviction) to do what they say, and not let special interests lead them off on other paths.
A great argument for Paul on the war is in this endorsement, http://rationalargumentator.com/issue136/ronpaul2008.html Basically, the soonest Paul could do anything if elected would be January 2009. That's over a year away. It will also be longer than WWII lasted. If we don't have Iraq under control by then, it's time to come home. I mean, longer than WWII? IIRC, he would talk to the military leadership, and start planning for a safe withdrawal that could take up to a year (2010).
Exactly my beliefe Guerilla. I have always wondered why people hated bush so much, other then the fact that wasnt willing to step up to the plate against these special interest groups. We need an intelligent couragious leader like RP who has the will to stick to his guns.
He is for me. You have to decide if he is for you. If you have questions, there are a bunch of us who will try to find you answers. If you don't understand something or disagree with what he is about, that's ok too. You have to make the best decision based upon your preferences and conscience.
Well, you folks, and i just asked the oppinion of a close friend of mine, which is in agreement with you all, i believe i will vote Ron Paul, Geez cant believe i said that
You need only look at his voting record. The man stood up in Miami, at a debate there, and told a crowd of Cuban Americans he wanted to end the embargo of Cuba, to loud boos, as most of those Cuban Americans absolutely despise Castro and fled Cuba to come here away from it all. Would any other politician have the balls to openly tell people something they would not agree with? He doesn't take money from special interests or corporate backers. I can pull up sources to show this; he is a candidate who gets almost 100% of his support from individuals, with donations averaging about $100. Hillary and most of the other mainstream candidates pull in average donations near the $2300 maximum, and receive tons of money from questionable groups like lobbyists and special interests. Also, as I linked to, his writings and speeches are well circulated on the internet, and when there is a 434-1 vote in the House, you can almost guarantee it's Dr. Paul, and you can almost guarantee he'll have a reasonable explanation for why he could not support that particular bill. Have you heard about his vote about the Rosa Parks medal?
I didnt sat you were, you did, i just asked you if you were sure, that you were already brain washed and not being brain washed with ron paul, but dont worry, if you are being brain washed, i think i just got a dose of it too.