I have gone right off Ron Paul

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #61
    Earthfaze, every candidate out there doesnt give a hoot global warming and pollution. First we need to address things like the fed, needless wars (like iraq) and the way government is infringing upon our rights. Ron paul addresses these things when no one else has the guts to. What i really like about him is that no special interest group has him in their side pocket. He is his own man unlike the other candidates who have to kiss butt to one particular group.

    Once we can address these problems there is more peace and prosperity in this world, more americans enjoying the fruits of their labor (meaning our money saved is worth more) and having our freedom and rights in place as the constitution says.

    Do you guys not think that wars also cause pollution???? Do a search on the amount of cancer and desease increase among the people of a warring country. RP will do alot when he becomes president but no one can fix everything overnight. I think going back to the constitution will get us back on the right track and thats a good start.
     
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    #62
    Ron Paul sucks for a lot more reasons than just this one.
     
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    #63
    He has taken the Internet world by Storm. He is a genius. Straight forward in his talk, clear ideas, he is a force, his ideas are unstoppable...

    Millions of people all over the world admire him. He has fan clubs all over the world. He has earned this respect because of his ideas.
     
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  4. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #64
    Another brilliant one line answer. Im guessing your answering thsi way because you dont have any facts to back up your view? or your the ceo of a company lol;)
     
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    #65
    It's too bad other politicians aren't like him.
     
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    #66
    Truth is popular and it appeals to everyone except the elite. Ron Paul speaks the truth and people love him for it.
     
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    n1ck Active Member

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    #67
    To get back on the topic of evolution, allow a science major to potentially end some discrepancies. First and foremost, the most depressing thing about science is that nothing is a fact. There is absolutely nothing fact based about science. Science is this: A guess. For instance, a hypothesis would say: There is no difference between the mitochondrial DNA of a chimp and of a human. That's my hypothesis. Now, I would run tests and based on what my tests concluded would determine whether or not that hypothesis was right or wrong? No. All we do as scientists is either SUPPORT or DENY a hypothesis. Nothing is even proven. It can't be proven. Someone could come along and run a test and suddenly say, "wait a second, my results are different!" So, your information might support your hypothesis, but it has nothing to do with the actual proving of something.

    Now, onto evolution itself...Well, that's a tricky one. No one can tell you where life came from. No one can. The way I see it, we're all a bunch of chemical reactions. If the reactions stop happening, I cease to exist. Do I believe in the big bang? Yup. Why? Because there is enough evidence to support that belief. There is no evidence in my eyes that God exists. Would I like to believe in God? Yeah, there's that warm, spiritual, faithful feeling of having some divine power looking down at you. But, there is no evidence, no theories, nothing other than "HE EXISTS!" How? Perhaps it is my scientific mind that always asks why and how, but where is the evidence to support your hypothesis that God exists? There is none.

    Now...Evolution does occur. We can see mutations under a microscope and we can see mutations in the world around us. You will very rarely contract the same strand of Influenza because your body builds up immunity to it. That is evolution. Those birds that Darwin studied were all the same kind of bird, but based on where they were located, even separated by only an island determined the type of beak that they had. I did an entire paper on this last year, so I have a pretty good understanding of Darwin's theories. Now, why were the beaks different if they were pretty much the same exact bird? Because the food sources based on each individual island was different. Fruit was easy to get on one, so the beak was different than the beak of another bird that ate bugs. Similar birds, different eating methods because they evolved to their environment.

    Now, the theory of humans coming from chimps and why didn't they ALL evolve with us? We didn't evolve from chimps so much as we evolved along with them, but we continued on because we needed to. Based on where we were, it made sense to continue the evolution. Even chimps evolve...They use tools like we do. They use sticks to get ants from holes. That's pretty damn handy. There was an article in the New York Times three years ago about how they found an animal that came from water with elbows and fingers. That would suggest the transition from water to land. Evolution.

    Look, I'm not saying there isn't a God. I'm not saying any of that. What I am saying is that there is considerable amounts of evidence that supports the theories of evolution. Just because some big microbiologist decided to go to Intelligent Design means nothing. Even the biggest scientists make mistakes. Is it a mistake? Maybe. But keep in mind one thing...The hardest thing for a scientist is finding his religion and his work and finding a balance. I want to be a microbiologist and I can see the adaptations and the evolution under a microscope. Why is it MRSA exists? Because we have used the antibiotic Methicillin far too much on Staphylococcus Aureus. Now? We have a super bug. Evolution.

    Whether Ron Paul believes in it or not does not matter. It does not change my opinion on him. I think Evolution occurs, he does not, or just doesn't believe it yet. That doesn't matter. All that matters to me is that education continues, my nation is safe, my dollar does not deteriorate, and there is a guarantee that my family won't be killed for their own beliefs. Anything else? I don't care about. Until there is evidence, though, to show me God, it's only faith. God is only Faith. Evolution, though, can be seen.

    -Jacob on my friend's account.
     
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  8. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Yep and this is why i like his message also. Im sick and tired of all these pro-elite political puppets we have been spoon-fed for all these years.
    To just watch Ron Paul speak the truth about the fed and the war in iraq only raises my level of respect for his courage to speak teh truth in front of all of this danger.
     
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    LinkSales Active Member

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    #69
    Coming from someone who believes in evolution. I am not at all turned off that he doesn't. I want someone who can run the country, not someone who will decide what story I should follow.
     
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    #70
    That's not quite right, just because no one showed you God doesn't prove he isn't out there
     
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    #71
    Same goes the other way, just because someone tells you (without proof) that there is a God that does not prove that there is one really does it now. That's not quite right now is it?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #72
    re-read what he said.

    he is saying it's "faith" until there is evidence, Not that a lack of evidence is proof that it doesn't exist.
     
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    #73
    Yeah, goes both ways, I don't see anything wrong with your logic
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #75
    If you think Paul is a "nutter", what does it make the rest of them?..
     
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    #76
    Do you believe that or is that a fact?
     
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    #77
    Let's look at the previous performance of the two sides.
    1. Founding fathers. Didn't subscribe to evolution theory. Built the greatest country in modern history.
    2. Atheists. Destroyed it.
     
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    #78
    Isn't Bush a Christian?
     
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    #79
    Oh my; I never realized that! RON PAUL == GEORGE BUSH.

    Except for Ron's bad haircut, the two are VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL! :rolleyes:

    Oh yeah, and George is the leader of the free world while Ron isn't the leader of anything but a bunch of conspiracy nuts. :cool:
     
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    #80
    Isn't Bush a Christian?

    I don't think it makes sense to distinguish between Christians and atheists. Both believe in Darwinism. At some point, Bible was banned by Vatican. They only ban Old Testament now, so I guess things improved, but it's the Old Testament where creation of life is addressed. Personally, I haven't met a Catolic who believes that God created man yet. They believe it evolved from monkeys
     
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