American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Dec 21, 2007.

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  1. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #21
    Sorry but when you steal and occupy land and refuse to give it back, you are basically saying "please attack me" and when they do get attacked they and it's little followers like MIA cry about it LMAO.
     
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    #22
    So your condoning the missiles? The Deaths of CHILDREN?
    I dont know what world your on pal but it certainly aint this one!
     
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  3. grab my heat

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    #23
    Are you condoning the death of thousands of Palestinian children and woman that have died at the hands of Israel?
     
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    #24
    CNN = Corrupt News Network
     
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    #25
    Nope! i ain't going to feed your sick little fire man, you think its ok for Israeli innocents to die and trying backing up your ideals with crap counter-arguments.
     
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    #26
    Yeah thanks for giving us some info which serves no purpose!
     
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  7. grab my heat

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    #27
    Oh that's ok then, Israelis can kill palestinian kids but Palestinians cant fire back in response. It's ok I have already seen you suffer from Islamophobia from your location in your profile.
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #28
    Dude, face it.. It is the other way around.
     
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    #29
    What about making a reply to my 2 pictures with stupid Israeli children signing bombs to kill other children Mia?

    Are you covering for GTech today or summats because I haven't seen the fool tonight.

    Is he on an "invite only" sheeple dinner party? :D
     
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    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #30
    The Palestine people were offered their own country in the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 but instead rejected that resolution and decided to wage war. Now they don't like the results of their actions and its Israel’s fault.
     
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  11. earlpearl

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    #31
    At some point after 50+ years of waging war against Israel, and seeing that the worst sufferers have been the poorest of the poor of Palestinians, it would seem that some members of the Islamic world would get their heads and real efforts together to try and forge a peace so that Palestinian people could live better.

    The leaders of Arab nations have allowed and encouraged crazed extremist leaders of the Palestinian people to wage war for over 50 years and the Palestinians have been the ones to suffer.

    Each time there has been a significant effort to establish some level of peace and security Israel has stepped to the plate. Each time it has been tanked by the most extreme Arab/Islamic group of the time.

    The fundamentals of peace are easy. 100% accept that there will be tight controls on any extremism and violence from Palestinian/fundamentalist crazies that want to wipe out Israel. Accept significant security that can actually enforce that.

    For that Palestinians will get substantial amounts of land. The exact land to be provided to Palestinians is and will be a difficult, difficult set of details to be worked out as history has shown.

    Lots of land for iron clad enforcement of security. It would be a good deal after 50+ years of getting the "buffalo shuffle" from corrupt selfish extremist leaders, who have no qualms about sacrificing the lives of the poorest of the poor. Israelis would love that also.
     
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    #32
    IMO, there cannot be a Palestine, there will never be one. The situation on the ground is aweful, terrible. Palestine can never be an independent state. Even if it comes into existence, it will be just a Vassal state of the Isralies. If they don't like an elected government, the US would just put economic sanctions on the people teetering on the brink of economic collapse.

    The only way forward is a "one-State solution", where both Israelis and Palestinians live together, side-by-side, as equal citizens of a Democratic society.

    Palestine has proven unpartitionable and yet people who insist on Jewish supremacy are trying to find a Bantustan solution that will absolve Israel of giving political rights to the five million plus Palestinians it rules, while maintaining the fiction that it is a "Jewish democracy". This racist state can only maintain this fiction by insisting on the exclusion of millions more Palestinians and their descendants forced out of their homes.

    The only viable solution is to end this structure of racism and to allow all people who live in Palestine-Israel to live in peace and democracy. The only viable solution is to end this structure of racism and to allow all people who live in Palestine-Israel to live in peace and democracy. This will not be easy, but it will be better than the apartheid that exists now. Our willingness to respect the right of return is a measure of whether we consider all the humans who call Palestine-Israel home to be equal.
     
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    #33
    The Jews in Israel are Israelis

    Zionism is an international political movement that supports a homeland for the Jewish People in the Land of Israel
     
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    #34
    Ummmmmmmmmmmm i know.


    Ummmmmmmmmmmm i know.
     
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    #35
    O.K.

    If the Palestinians stop firing rockets and sending suicide bombers against the Israelis, the Israelis will stop defensive airstrikes that target terrorists.
     
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    #36
    No buddy. Israel stops building illegal settlements and stops stealing land, stops occupieing Gaza and the west bank the suicide bombers and rockets will stop. SIMPLE.
     
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    #37
    The Israelis have withdrawn from Gaza. The continued violence of the Palestinians will result in the loss of more land.

    In 1947 the Palestinians had 55% of land and Jordan.
    1948 they had 40%
    1967 Palestinians lost East Jerusalem and Gaza and West Bank were occupied

    The current violence has cost the Palestinians the Jordan Valley. All goods coming out of the Jordan Valley are now marked Jordan Valley, Israel

    More violence will cause more loss of land.
     
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    #38
    So do you think if Israel came and invaded britain and said ok britain you can have 55% we are taking 45% they would be ok with it? lol, stop kidding yourself.
     
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    #39
    Israel is the homeland of the Jews.

    Many of the Palestinians migrated to the area during the Ottoman and British rule.
     
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    #40
    But it isn't! By that logic, the native americans can make the USA their own state. Seriously, just because jews lived there some 3000 years ago does not mean they can come back and claim it as their own! Absolutley rediculous!
     
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