7 Reasons Why America is hated in the Middle-east...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gauharjk, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    #41
    Somewhat?

    British Army anyone? Paras??
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #42
    Perhaps, but then again, our country was founded on that belief. It was not one of excluding other religions, it's just what the founding fathers had in mind.

    Unlike any other society or government on the planet, our nation was founded in the belief that you are free to believe anything you want. We do not exclude any religion. "In God We Trust" is not something that is exclusionary.. Unless you are Atheist, everyone believes in some type of God... God in this sense is completely ambiguous. It is not necessarily the Christian God, the Jewish God, the Greek God, etc.. It's just God.. Nothing offensive there.

    So?
    This has to be one of the dumbest conditionals I have ever heard... If RP does not win, where will you move? What will you do?

    Then you hate America. We, the People, are the government.
     
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    Meth_ Well-Known Member

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    #43
    excuse me if I'm wrong
    but wasn't the IRA just a group of militant nutters who done what they want, and weren't regulated?

    Didn't they bomb random buildings for no reason?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_bombings

    I'm not tryna defend the british army, but they are organized by our government and aren't some random nutters who go and bomb hotels and houses without reason
     
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  4. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #44
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
     
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  5. Meth_

    Meth_ Well-Known Member

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    #45
    good point


    I will stay in the UK or immigrate to Canada?



    don't kid yourself
    if the people were the government, then America wouldn't be the way it is now

    you could use the argument, "but we choose who runs out government"

    but no, just no...
    http://www.oilempire.us/elections.html
     
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  6. cormac

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    #46
    Sure thats ok that they were organised by your government and probably gave them plenty of justification for shooting dead 13 innocent civilians in my hometown among many others since the start of occupation in Ireland.

    You are excused.

    One of the reasons why Britain never beat the Irish Republican Army was because they were a well trained army and a very well structured one. Even top ranking British military stated that.

    My suggestion is that you read up on your history before coming out with anymore nonsense.
     
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    #47
    The top selling newspaper in the UK:

    [​IMG]

    Says it all really, there are 59 million people in America just like MIA.
     
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  8. cormac

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    #48
    And a paper I wouldn't wipe my arse with. :rolleyes:
     
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    #49
    lol, Every paper in the UK is anti bush, Right, Left, Tabloid or Broadsheet.
     
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    #50
    That is true but there again every British newspaper is anti everything.
     
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    #51
    I never said they were anti everything? :confused:
     
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    #53
    there's a difference between random shootings and an organized bomb attack

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_City_Centre_bombing


    I'm sure the people who killed the 13 innocent people didn't organize it, and I'm sure the British Army as a whole didn't tell them to do it


    there's obviously going to be some corrupt people in armys
    but that's just individuals, you can't really call the whole British Army a terrorist organization for it
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #55
    I agree..

    It however does depend on how you look at it, God in the original sense of our founding fathers was not really 'relgious' but more a generic term used. The super religious try to twist it to it being a Christian god, that however is really IMHO not the case, as well as most non biased people who study the founding of this country 'from my experience'

    It however was Christians who did push the 'in god we trust' to be placed onto money, so it could be easily argued the term on the money is for a Christian god.

    In any event I do not think it is proper for the US IMHO.
     
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    #56
    Yes, it is.

    or some agnostics
    or some Buddhists
    Nothing offensive to you maybe, but you think you speak for every American? How about the agnostics that think it's offensive, after seeing all the bloodshed in the name of organized religion?

    The people are the government?

    Then why do "the people" (meaning a majority of Americans) want us out of Iraq, but congress can't get that accomplished?

    How about this, if you can find a scholarly source that says congress is NOT whiter, richer, and more male then the general public, I'll paypal you enough for a subway sandwich :)
     
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    #57
    Nobody said you did...
     
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    #58
    I wonder, if any average middle eastern ppl know those 7 things you listed
     
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    #59
    One of the most perfect responses in this thread...
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #60
    No it isn't..

    Kinda the same thing...

    Nah, it is about as offensive as taking Christ out of Christmas, not saying the Pledge in school, or some chick sucking horse dong on an internet site..

    American never shed blood in the name of God.. You are confused...

    Yes. We are a Representative Republic.

    Source? The majority of Americans in the US voted in a Democratic Congress that put us there, and continues to keep us there..

    See Representative Republic above.
    That's because there are so many democrats there.. Do keep in mind that in America, the more liberal you are, the more money you probably have.

    But hey, we are only 231 or so years old.. I mean, in that short amount of time women have the right to vote. So do blacks. Blacks are in congress, as are women, blacks and women can run for, or could be president..

    I guess we are not quite as advanced as the much older civilized places that don't even let women show their faces... I guess we have a ways to go yet... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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