Nobody knows how the human body was created and formed. Asking someone how it happened in order to prove your point is simply illogical.
See, no matter how strange my ideas get about God I can always be confident that between the next three posters in this thread I will find something I consider stranger.
The words "man" and "woman" are also employed equally in the Quran: 23 times. The number of times the words "man" and "woman" are repeated in the Quran, 23, is at the same time that of the chromosomes from the egg and sperm in the formation of the human embryo. The total number of human chromosomes is 46; 23 each from the mother and father. Will they not ponder the Quran? If it had been from other than Allah, they would have found many inconsistencies in it. (Quran, 4:82)
Hmmm..it appears you are putting the majority of mankind into one category and labelling it "unintelligent". You say a "large study". How large? Who did it and what were the demographics? Was it a study that you studied or did someone tell you about it or did you read about it in one of those popular magazines? You call it a FACT. How so? Yes....I am Aquaman...can leap over a tall ocean liner....can stop fish hooks from getting stuck in fishes mouths....can travel at the speed of a speeding swordfish!!!
Interesting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(number) you can find a lot more interesting correlations of numbers if you look for them. And I am still not converting.
The word "land" appears 13 times in the Quran and the word "sea" 32 times, giving a total of 45 references. If we divide that number by that of the number of references to the land we arrive at the figure 28.888888888889%. The number of total references to land and sea, 45, divided by the number of references to the sea in the Quran, 32, is 71.111111111111%. Extraordinarily, these figures represent the exact proportions of land and sea on the Earth today.
Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled [without purpose]? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen? (Quran, 75:36-37) As we have seen, the Quran informs us that man is made not from the entire semen, but only a small part of it. That the particular emphasis in this verse announces a fact only discovered by modern science is evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah. We then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Quran, 23:14) Embryology is the branch of science that studies the development of the embryo in the mother's womb. Until very recently, embryologists assumed that the bones and muscles in an embryo developed at the same time. Yet, advanced microscopic research conducted by virtue of new technological developments has revealed that the revelation of the Quran is word for word correct. These observations at the microscopic level showed that the development inside the mother's womb takes place in just the way it is described in these verses. First, the cartilage tissue of the embryo ossifies. Then, muscular cells that are selected from amongst the tissue around the bones come together and wrap around the bones.
Grab, despite your several posts here of doing so, I haven't said anything yet. But as we have discussed before: You are merely cutting and pasting material from Miracles of the Qur'an, without having an actual dialogue in place, and in addition you are not providing a proper link to the site. Please be considerate in providing the proper credit, and can we do more than provide cut and pastes, please? Now - silicates in the human body. Did you have a source?
I was actually going to put that in my next post, so you could educate yourself further, it would save me from posting here. Though I hope you will look further and one day embrace the truth! Clay is composed directly of water by the way. Peace!
Thanks for the link, babies are cute And I think the site layout is pretty, but it could be more user friendly on the navigation. Oh and I am still not going to convert. I have been indoctrinated before and I swore I would never go through that again
You are missing the point, Rub. Grab indicated: And is further using these postulates to "prove" the "miracle" of the Qu'ran (or rather, is cutting and pasting material from a website to make the argument). Accepting your premise that***: Then postulating the Qur'an, as a "miracle" because it follows from some postulate over the "stuff" making up original man, is fallacious. When you add in that silicates are not a naturally occurring part of the human chemical makeup, asking for scientific support to the postulate "man originated in clay" seems a reasonable question, particular if that postulate is used as further proof of the "miracle" of the Qu'ran. Hence, I am unclear - did you have an issue with the question? If so, why? ***and I don't accept the notion - or rather, it is clear to me that silicates are not a part of the human body.
Grab, given that you have posted numerous points without citing the source, and this isn't the first time you have done this, I do wonder why. When you do this as a matter of course, I'm sorry but it comes off to me that you are attempting to mask another's arguments as your own. As I said in the other thread, long ago, and you agreed; yet you do it here, throughout. To the issue at hand, please don't obfuscate. You said: Clays are silicates. As silicates do not naturally occur in the human chemical portfolio, I am asking you to provide support to your view, beyond saying "it's the truth," especially as this is one of the means you are using to indicate the Qur'an correctly predated the discovery of same, 1400 years later. Merely saying "it's the truth" and "peace, out" doesn't quite rise to the level of personal inquiry, to me.
The components of the human body correspond in general with the chemical composition of soil when combined with water, i.e. clay. Generally, soil is made of a number of clay minerals that depend in their structure on hydrated aluminum silica, and exceed ten in number. They differ according to the degree of hydration, the percentage of both aluminum and silicon, or through the addition of other substances like magnesium, potassium, etc. Moreover, clay minerals are combined (mixed) with different proportions of sand grains (quartz), feldspars, mica, iron oxides, and some heavy minerals, in addition to a small percentage of volcanic ashes, sea lime (calcareous) and salt particles, and ash particles that result from various combustive operations. Soil is also mixed with pollen and other plant remnants, bacteria and the remnants of other microorganisms, some remnants of cosmic and meteoritic dust, in addition to several other organic substances from the waste of various living creatures. This combination makes the chemical composition of soil and water very similar to that of the human body. Soil is fragmented fine-grained sediment. Its granular diameter (clay) does not exceed 1/257 of a millimeter, even if mixed with some granules of silt (the diameter of its granule is 1/16 mm, 1/256 mm) and sand (1/4 – 1/16 mm.) The proportion of porosity is as high as 70% to 80% in recently formed clay sediments. On the other hand, this proportion decreases to only 13% in old clay (mudstone) rocks, especially in shale. This high proportion of porosity in newly formed clay sediments increases after denudation (weathering) and transformation into soil. Soil pores fill with different ions of other substances, in addition to water, air and micro – wastes of living creatures. If the proportion of water increases, clay transforms into mud. The extraction from which man was created is the substances and compounds dissolving in the water held between the grains of clay metals and cracks that form clay. http://www.elnaggarzr.com/Test_fre/English/Article18.htm
Grab, thank you, at least, for citing your cut and paste. I am sorry to say the above is to my eyes the most tortured piece of pseudoscience I've read in awhile, and that takes some doing. From the above, the essence of your cut and paste says a couple of things: 1. That the human body is like soil and water. Then, the article appears to veer off into silica land again, for some unknown bridge between silicates and the human body; 2. Says that stuff that resides in the cracks between clay "bits" has some organic stuff in it as well, like the human body. Sorry for the sarcasm, but it shouldn't be news that there are intersections of materials that are in the human body, also found in all kinds of stuff - all the way down to subatomic particles. That's why these materials are seen to be "stuff," the primary particles (or waves, depending on which eye you're squinting) of nature. How does this help the argument of your cut-and-paste, again? Grab, I also need to let you know that if all you will be doing is cutting and pasting, I will have to give you the floor and close the dialogue, from my end. I can read articles and books. I engage here to learn something from the original thought of others.