Google penalties

Discussion in 'Google' started by freaky andy, Dec 17, 2007.

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  1. alex_d1

    alex_d1 Well-Known Member

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    #61
    OK, thats good to know. When you have competitors in the same niche as you, its nice to know that if they ever start playing dirty, then the damage that they can cause is pretty minimal.

    Alex
     
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  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #62
    Actually, I know quite a few things you could do with redirects to really damage a competitors search engine rank, but it's just not fair and would only be used against someone doing it to me :)

    Lets just say with the correct method (that I've tested less than 1 month ago) could get a site removed from the search results almost all together and see minor to semi-major de-indexing.
     
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  3. freaky andy

    freaky andy Peon

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    #63
    It's still depends on what your target audience is. Try that in France and you'll screwed. You have to rely on Google and Google is your main source of traffic. Of course, you have to diversify, but that diversification is only 30% of the traffic.

    I don't think ssandecki's website would ever reach the status when people simply start typing its name in the url field. When you look for IBM, BMW, INTEL, etc in other words, large companies, they don't have to be on Google SERPs. You can always BUY banners on high traffic sites if you think their users are your target audience, etc.
    For a regular Johnny Sixpack, Google is the Boss and without the boss no traffic PERIOD.
     
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  4. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #64
    You have no idea what your talking about, find another thread to attempt to look knowledgable in.

    Dude, who the hell are you to assume anything about the "one" site I display in my signature? If you MUST know, I get over 50% DIRECT traffic for my site, not including before my 2 day downtime I was ranked #2 for funny pictures for many months on end, which still only accounted for 38-42% at the most traffic wise. Still Now That's Humor alone earns me over $1,000 a month with ZERO investment but the dedicated server cost. You could only wish to achieve those marks I'd assume.
     
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  5. freaky andy

    freaky andy Peon

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    #65
    The US is not the only country in the world, dude. If you want to sell freakin' widgets in Sweden or Romania, then Google is your only choice.
    If you're so good without ever buying backlinks, why don't you publish a book and become a millionaire in no time? Just a suggestion :)
     
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  6. astup1didiot

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    #66
    Because it's common knowledge availible freely on the internet silly.
     
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  7. Joobz

    Joobz Peon

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    #67
    Is it safe to assume now that the submission of sites to directories are a depreciated attempt? Especially when you might pay for a premium listing?
     
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  8. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    I'm sure directories give some type of seo weight, or none, it's one or the other and depends on the directory itself. I always found directory submissions to be a waste of time that could be spend building content or attempting to build real quality related backlinks.
     
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  9. Joobz

    Joobz Peon

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    #69
    If G is penalizing the link sellers then it would make logical sense that anyone with phpLD charging for premium listings would have their directory penalized in some way.
     
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    #70
    The answer would be yes in that situation.
     
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    rbleyer Well-Known Member

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    #71
    Google penalities getting scary!! This is really concerning me now as people said that it would never happen. I brought a text link off a site in DP and my top ranking site was deindexed by Google. All sites that brought links has this same affect. I have been in email and PM contact to confirm with a number of them. My site was reindexed a few days later and I went from page 1 to page 5 or 6 with all my listings. So now all I have to do is pay a small fee and get some of my competitors links up there.................
     
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  12. LakeCountry

    LakeCountry Well-Known Member

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    #72
    Not necessarily. Cutts stated that quality directories charging for a "review" should be alright.I don't think it has anything to do with the script but how you use it.
     
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    #73
    well "ssandecki" maybe I'm wrong and I am not trying to prove you wrong or anything. I am not in it to win a conversation or something. I am trying to figure out why google does certain things.

    one of my sites, 10 years old always ranked on the first page for the main keyword for about 8 years. All of a sudden it got de-indexed fully.... nothing for the site: command at all. Got re-indexed about 3 days later with 5 page penalty.

    Now how does this happen, just cause I lost value of somelinks....they would de-index the site and then bring it back with 5 page penalty !!

    I did get some links about 3 months ago....only one way. Plus there is not 1 out going link from my site.
    So what happened !!!, I can only go by what I a have. The few links must be the cause and if they are, someone else could have got them for me...cause it did get me penalized. In this case it was me who got them.

    just tryin to figure this out if in coming links can't hurt a site. Nobody really has real facts with proof here.
     
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  14. LakeCountry

    LakeCountry Well-Known Member

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    #74
    According to Google both buying and selling links MAY get you penalized. Why else would their Snitch-O-Gram have a place for reporting both?

    I'm still not sure how they (G) determines if a link was bought or sold however. I'm pretty sure their algo has no way of telling the difference. Make sense to me that a competitor could simply buy links pointing to a site to cause problems.
     
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    #75
    Does anyone know how long a -50 penalty can last?
     
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    #76
    I recently signed up with google analytics. I'm learning about it and start to like it. The motive was to monitor visitors, not getting higher page ranking...


    How does one determine the utility of content? I use adsense as well, but hope this is in limits, not disturbing the content of pages. At present there is about one block/two links per page, with exceptions.
    Right, so the search is for a method to find quality content and rank it high, while keeping the trash on the bottom.
     
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    #77
    Before I joined DP most of the traffic to my sites were inorganic. One of the best ways to market your site is in person. Now many people might disagree with me but many of sites that started up and is pulling in hindreds of thousands of dollars is from no google web pr. Now it is google who is scrambeling to index their pages instead of them begging google to do so.
     
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