This should help the Infraction scenario.

Also, I wish to know whether we can post a reply to a thread after the edit period has expired and no one has replied after you?

If the answer to the above is no, then I know I deserve an infraction this post.

And, since the bumping type post sticky is only in the B/S/T forum, I am wondering whether it is applicable only in that forum?

 

Yes, if you have something new to add.... but not just to bump the thread.

If it's a sales thread you created, you can PM a mod and have the additional information/edt put into the thread. Shouldn't be a problem if there have been no replies

 

Not a bad idea, in theory, but if people dont read the rules and get an infraction then they've only themselves to blame.

I can't blame the mods at all if it seems like they give infractions for very little sometimes, think of the number of idiots they have to deal with every day, it would be no wonder if one or two were trigger happy. They have a tough job to do.

 

I think something that a lot of people don't realize is that the majority (I'd go so far as to say 99%) of the infractions given out here are a result of members reporting posts. Mods don't run around looking for people to infract, we primarily just process the reports members send us.

 

Yeah i'm sure you guys are constantly swamped with reported threads or posts and I guess it would explain why it sometimes takes a while to get to some of them. I hope you guys are getting extra choc chip cookies in the post this year for all your hard work

 

Hundreds a day.

 

The lesson I learned is that even if I was wrongfully tagged with an infraction it isn't going away.

I got one infraction for "running up post count" after I had a few hundred posts - as if I needed this one additional post. Why did I get it? Because in a For Sale thread when someone required you to prove you are first to reply to an auction (which requires a public post) I did so without much additional content. For whatever reason I was tagged for this infraction when it's pretty clear that there was no intention to run up post count nor was it against any rule that I could see as it would be contrary to the entire auction concept. After all, the only way people know that someone responded first to a sale items is public, not in private email where nobody knows what goes on.

So while I respect what you're saying and can understand the moderators are dealing with TONS of abuse, it's also a problem for some of us when there is no remedy to being slapped with a mistaken infraction. Just something to point out that will hopefully be considered as well.

 

My suggestions a while back was to rewrite the rules for the stuff that was added after they were put up. There are so many stickies that people fail to read, it would be better to compile them in one place. This would be very easy to refer to when looking to make sure if something was OK. JMO

 

Your post read:

"PM Sent to you moments ago."

The infraction was "running up post count/post has no value". Considering the person you sent the PM to received it do you see any value in posting that you sent them a PM?

There is a remedy for infractions that are given in error, but I don't think this one falls into that category.

 

Infractions maybe private but i think when people get banned i would like to know why. Everytime i turn around im seeing a banned name and wondering why the person got banned for. There should be some kind of reason that popups on the person banned profile telling the reason why so we all know if its a temp ban for something as scamming or whatever the people should know why and what for so that they wont need to do business with such a person anymore.

 

If you want to know you'll have to ask them. We're not going to give out that info.

 

A quick search of the users previous posts will normally reveal the reason for the ban. Or at least give you a good idea as to why, also notice the difference in the weigh scale..people who have 10 or more infractions racked up still have the ability to receive reputation EXAMPLE 1 and the ones who are found to be duplicate accounts or other reasons don't EXAMPLE 2

 

nothing to offend you but mostly the people who get banned dont know the reason for which they were banned.....nothing against you ,just wanted to share this thought....

 

If people don't know the reasons, they must have their profile set to not accept emails from administrators.

 

The PM sent to him confirmed the offer during the auction. It is a public declaration that I have put in my bid. Respectfully, your reply has no more value than my post. Given the nature of the bidding, it's pretty clear that to get an infraction for "running up post count" is absurd as it's clear there is no intention to do this. Needing to rationalize shows the absurd nature of the infraction and there are far more obvious items out there better spent hunting down. If there is a question about an infraction don't bother with the infraction. We aren't in kindergarden.

Where are people supposed to reply if they feel that the infraction or warning they got was mistaken? It's not so clear as you may think.

I rarely had problems running a very large forum when we instructed our moderators only to give infractions for obvious conduct. Anything borderline should get no more than a private message or some informal warning, if needed. The problem here is that these items are all public and you'll get a bad reputation without the courtesy of explanation. At least with iTraders if you have a dispute you have the benefit of seeing an exchange as to what may have happened.

 

They can contact anyone in this list Forum Leaders until they receive 10 infractions, by that point they should know what they were doing was wrong.

And I know that a few of us have our msn messenger addresses listed so that people can contact us. (like me for example)

I personally receive about 5 requests on average in a day about infractions from temporarily banned members and users who were issued their first infraction.

 

I'm glad you're active. I had no idea who "infracted" me and and my request to a forum leader picked at random fell into the black hole. Thanks for the info and I hope you realize that many of us aren't as familiar as it may seem.

 

This happens to only be true if you tell people about them. They are meant as a warning and nothing else. They do not mean you are a scammer only that you have made a mistake. Regular members can not even see them. Most of the ones you hear about are from people who do not understand that they are warning and not some vendetta out to get them. If you believe there is a mistake pm a mod ask nicely for them to look into and wait. They are busy and have work to do.

I am not trying to kiss up here but I have been seeing more of this then posts on anything else. It is sad that people think it is the biggest thing in the world. It is not life goes on.

Shawn

 

Thank you, most of the moderators are active here, just like me.

I looked into your profile and saw the reason you had gotten an infraction was because you had posted in someone's thread stating you were looking for the same service which is considered hijacking.

Always look at the mod list to see who is currently online before sending a pm to one of them at random to get a faster reply.

 

Thanks for the explanation and I appreciate it.

However, this is another one which is in a major gray area. If I created my own thread for the exact same reason as someone else, I might be given an infraction for another useless thread when there is someone else who has already put up a thread seeking xyz content. My point was to say "I'm also looking for the same licensed content as this person for my own purposes" and please contact me as well. Hijacking is when someone decides to take over someone else's thread entirely and this didn't come close to hijacking.

As I mentioned, if people want to split hairs, fine that's your call. But the end result is that you'll probably end up ticking off more people than you will preventing any real infractions. This is why it is better to go after the people who are obviously a problem instead of nitpicking for people who might be a problem.