Smoking Weed

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  1. TheMarketingMadman

    TheMarketingMadman Well-Known Member

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    #21
    man made beer....god made pot...who do you trust...??
     
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    Yet most stoners do not do harder drugs with the exception of possibly some lsd, shrooms, etc, most can not stand crack, heroin, etc. Those usually come from bars, you know people using a legal drug that is much worse for you than pot. Great line in the sand to be drawn. :rolleyes:
     
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    #24
    Gave that up awhile ago and really do not endorse drug use as it kills your spirit sooner or later.

    Tk -- Sober is were it is at.. :)
     
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    #25
    I am totally against it.

    I can see how people make fools of themselves when they smoke it.

    Typically I would say that it doesn't affect your health more than cigarettes, and yes, for cancer patients I would consider it as an option. And other patients. But that's an extreme situation.

    Usually, most balanced people don't need it, so it's just a shortcut to pleasure, or, rather, the easy way to enjoy life. Pretty sad from my point of view, so don't smoke!

    And it's illegal in many places. Illegal and immoral. So please don't encourage others to do it just because you did.

    :)
     
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    #26
    How is it immoral?
    Massage, caffeine, chocolate, alcohol, hell even sex could be considered a 'shorcut' to pleasure.

    Tobacco is FAR worse for you than pot. I honestly do not get your point one bit.

    /This coming from a guy who works out daily, eats extremely healthy, does not smoke and rarely touches alcohol.
     
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    #27
    That's how it was for me too...but instead of 30 I stopped at 21. But 3 years of heavy use caused irreparable damage. Trust me. It's not worth it.
     
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    #28
    What damage would that be?
    I smoked it for much longer then that, at a rate I can guarantee was MUCH more than you used, yet I have no ill effects..

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    It is the user who abuses the substance, not the substance itself. Anyone can abuse anything, hell alot of kids/young adults abuse video games.
     
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    #29
    You need to see Reefer Madness

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    #30
    weeds not good for you man....:O
     
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    LMAO.. Ohh.. that must be why you ware that metal helmet on your head now.. and your eyes are glowing like light bulbs and bugging out... Maybe stoned your eyes right out... :cool:

    Boulder
     
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    hehe man good answers here, guess ill try it sometime :p
     
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  13. Christian Little

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    #33
    Give it a try and see how you feel about it afterwards

    My view of 420, cigarettes, and alcohol:

    Chemicals
    • Alcohol contains about 10 chemicals that harm your body in addition to the damage that alcohol causes to your liver.
    • Cigarettes contain over 100 chemicals that are deadly to humans in addition to the damage they cause to your lungs.
    • Pot contains no added chemicals (depending on your dealer), and only causes moderate damage to your lungs.

    Hospitalization
    • Alcohol (even in small amounts) shuts down your liver, which causes your body to absorb the alcohol directly into your bloodstream. This causes alcholol poisoning, which kills thousands of people every year. The only cure is to swallow charcoal at the hospital, which makes you vomit all the alcohol remaining in your stomach.
    • Cigarettes and Pot have no such effects.

    Social Stigmata
    • Pot smokers are frequently shunned by non-pot smokers. There is a huge social stigmata placed on pot smokers. This is mostly due to government propoganda.
    • Alcohol is perfectly acceptable to just about anybody.
    • Cigarettes use to be perfectly acceptable, however most countries are now adopting a "smoking is bad" policy. Fifty years of telling people to smoke, now they're trying to stop you from doing it.

    Behavioral Effects
    • Pot causes you to mellow out, relax, sometimes giggle, and rarely hallucinate (usually only if it's laced).
    • Alcohol causes you to lose all sense of judgement, and most people get very aggressive and violent.
    • Cigarettes don't effect your behavior, even though people seem to relax after getting their fix.

    Addiction
    • Alcohol is very addictive. Those in widthdrawl get violent very easily.
    • Cigarettes are extremely addictive, and are considered harder to quit than cocaine or heroin. (i.e. it's not uncommon to become addicted after smoking 1 cigarette).
    • Pot is only addictive if you smoke alot of it on a regular basis (i.e. smoking a joint every day for 2-3 months will get you addicted).

    Health Applications
    • Pot is prescribed to cancer patients, as well as people with Glaucoma and other visual illnesses, and several other conditions. It's not a cure, but it eases the symptoms.
    • Alcohol and Cigarettes have no health applications.

    Cost
    • 1 Joint costs $5, which is enough to get just about anybody high.
    • A case of beer costs $15, and is enough to get an average/lite drinker drunk. A heavy drinker will require 2-3x that amount.
    • A pack of smokes costs about $8 for 20 cigarettes. Depending on your addition, it's not uncommon for people to go through 1-2 packs per day. Do the math here...$8 per day for an entire year is just under $3000...

    Production
    • Pot is 100% natural. Though alot of growers add special growth enhancers, it's not hard to find pot that is 100% natural.
    • Alcohol is make through a chemical process that uses barley or wheat as the base ingredient. It's not 100% natural in the end, probably about 40% natural.
    • Cigarettes are manufactured and refined from tobacco, and hundreds of chemicals are added in the process. In reality a cigarette is probably about 5% natural tobacco.

    Legality
    • Pot is illegal. Being caught with a small amount of pot will usually result in it being confiscated, but it's not uncommon for small fines/charges to be laid. The only way to legally smoke pot is to have a prescription for it or be in a country where it's legal (i.e. Amsterdam).
    • Alcohol is 100% legal, and taxed.
    • Cigarettes are 100% legal, and taxed.

    Pot smokers are the most shunned of the 3 groups, yet pot is the most beneficial and natural.

    The US government (and most others) have endorsed smoking for over 50 years. Until recently they have said it's healthy and good, but now more people are stepping forward saying it's bad and the government is finally falling in line, but it's going to be a long time before smoking is banned.

    The US government banned alcohol back in the 1800's. Then lifted the ban only after they started taxing it.



    Personally I'm not fond of smoking cigarettes. I understand the addition from it, and I don't look down on people who are addicted to it. However I have little respect for somebody that decides to start smoking.

    I have no problem with alcohol. I frequently drink, and back in my teens and early 20's I use to drink alot (that's what college was for! lol). However I have no respect for people who repeatedly get drunk and then start fights and get violent. If you know you get this way when you drink, then don't drink.

    I support 420 completely. I probably doesn't help that I'm in BC, which is the pot capital of North America.

    Harder drugs I can see the appeal. I've done all of them at one point or another.

    All I can say about other drugs is:

    Mushrooms - I didn't like the feeling I had with them, tried them 3 times and just didn't enjoy the experience.

    Ecstacy - I can definately see the appeal of this drug. It makes you super happy and hyper. Lots of fun if handled properly.

    Cocaine - I hate this stuff. The kickback from it isn't worth the fun you have. And it makes your nose bleed and destroys your naval cavity. The last time I tried it I woke up in the hospital.

    Heroin - It's like being on morphine. You feel very very good, then very very bad when it wears off. The holes in your arm look super sexy though ;) I enjoyed it for the first few hours, but it gets old very quickly.

    Acid - it's made by soaking paper in rat poison...think about what it's doing to your body...

    Meth - Hated it. Tried it once, never going to do it again.

    I don't shun any of these drugs, I just pesonally don't like them that much (except for maybe Ecstacy - however I haven't done it for over 10 years).

    Pot really isn't that bad, especially if you only do it once. You won't get cancer from smoking it once, the worst that will happen is you cough so much that you vomit (very unlikely).

    If you find you enjoy smoking it, then take the next step - pot brownies or pot tea. Both offer very different experiences from smoking it.

    I hope this helps :)
     
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    Teh eczpert hath spoken!
     
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    #36
    Misinformation at it's best.
    Try unrefined tobacco and get back to me ;) Before tobacco is processed it can have side effects from one use that is far worse than alcohol. It can even kill you.

    • I can not agree with this at all 'some' will get agressive and violent not 'most'. Most might lose their inhibitions enough that they might be more prone to violence if they need to, not simply that they get agressive and violent for no reason.
      Again try tobacco before it's processed...
      Pot addiction is not a standard addiction, it is more like someone who likes to watch TV, play video games, etc. They do not shake before getting a fix in almost all cases, it's simply part of their life style so they want to have it. Nothing compared to tobacco or alcohol, I honestly do not get why anyone would claim it to be addictive, no matter what health studies say. I know alot of pot smokers, and X pot smokers, they will all say the same thing.

      I take it you never drank? A case of beer is more than enough to get anyone drunk. Most drinkers could not even get close to finishing a case of beer in one sitting. 2-3x that, you seriously think anyone can drink 3 cases of beer in on sitting, especially 'just to get drunk' ? Or are your cases not 24?
      I smoked bare minimum 3 packs a day when I smoked, much of the time even more.
      Ever hear of prohibition? it was not in the 1800's
     
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    #37
    Never tried it, personally it does my head in the way people think its ok to smoke it on public transport, on the buses that i use where i live, people think smoking skunk is acceptable, with kids on the bus and everything.

    Got no problem with what you do in your own place, but i dislike when people force others to breathe in that stuff.

    Its too strong for most smokers of it too, here in the UK most kiddies cant handle its strength, they think they can but their idiots.
     
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    I agree that they should not do it on public transport, in front of kids, etc. That is just common sense I would think.

    It's not even the strength of the smoke, it is smoked differently than a cigarette is ;) You try inhaling like you're smoking a tobacco cigarette, you're going to be in for a world of hurt.
     
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    I know what you mean, not for the inexperienced. :)
     
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    #40
    Ageed, but I figured I talked about enough stuff without touching unrefined tobacco. It's not very easy to get :) But yes, it is deadly, I believe it only takes about 1g of pure tobacco to kill you.


    Actually I drink a fair bit. Up in Canada a case is 12 beer though. 24 cans is called a Flat here, as they come in the same flats that pop cans come on when you buy them in the same volume.

    Heh, couldn't remember the date exactly :) My knowledge of US history is mostly limited to the civil war and WWII ;)
     
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